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Title: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: rhayder on October 28, 2024, 10:09:33 PM
Protect democracy and the constitution.


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Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 28, 2024, 10:12:38 PM
Fear-mongering.

Nothing else to offer.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: rhayder on October 28, 2024, 10:24:27 PM
Fear-mongering.

Nothing else to offer.

Are you fearful of what Trump has told you he will do? Are you fearful he will terminate the Constitution as he promised?

Dan Coats a lifelong Republican and the Director of National Intelligence under Trump believes that Trump is a Russian asset and being blackmailed by Putin. Now Elon Musk has been meeting with Putin to discuss foreign policy if Trump wins. These are facts.

Check his resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: macsak on October 29, 2024, 04:45:14 AM
please show me where trump said he would terminate the constitution...

Are you fearful of what Trump has told you he will do? Are you fearful he will terminate the Constitution as he promised?

Dan Coats a lifelong Republican and the Director of National Intelligence under Trump believes that Trump is a Russian asset and being blackmailed by Putin. Now Elon Musk has been meeting with Putin to discuss foreign policy if Trump wins. These are facts.

Check his resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: macsak on October 29, 2024, 04:46:10 AM
Russia, Russia, Russia...

Are you fearful of what Trump has told you he will do? Are you fearful he will terminate the Constitution as he promised?

Dan Coats a lifelong Republican and the Director of National Intelligence under Trump believes that Trump is a Russian asset and being blackmailed by Putin. Now Elon Musk has been meeting with Putin to discuss foreign policy if Trump wins. These are facts.

Check his resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: QUIETShooter on October 29, 2024, 06:29:04 AM
Democrats getting desperate.

I for one am not afraid of a Trump victory.  All this fear mongering makes me laugh.

One thing I do fear, though.  I fear for the former and quite possibly the new President's life.

Thanks to the deplorables in the first sentence above and their rhetoric the past few days as we get closer to the inevitable.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 29, 2024, 07:31:54 AM
And here's the good ole Russia again. It worked with low IQ individuals the 1st time, why not use it again right?
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 29, 2024, 07:52:09 AM
Are you fearful of what Trump has told you he will do? Are you fearful he will terminate the Constitution as he promised?

Dan Coats a lifelong Republican and the Director of National Intelligence under Trump believes that Trump is a Russian asset and being blackmailed by Putin. Now Elon Musk has been meeting with Putin to discuss foreign policy if Trump wins. These are facts.

Check his resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats

I pray for a Trump landslide, so there will be no doubt the country at large rejects the "woke" agenda of the Left and the lawfare tactics of the Democrats.

I don't care what any intelligence agency director thinks or says.  I've worked in the intelligence field my whole career.  That's all I can say about it.

I know better than to take political advice from anyone who thought it was the right thing to LIE to the Commander in Chief about US force numbers deployed to Afghanistan and Syria.  That's treasonous.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Collector218 on October 29, 2024, 07:56:06 AM
Are you fearful of what Trump has told you he will do? Are you fearful he will terminate the Constitution as he promised?

Dan Coats a lifelong Republican and the Director of National Intelligence under Trump believes that Trump is a Russian asset and being blackmailed by Putin. Now Elon Musk has been meeting with Putin to discuss foreign policy if Trump wins. These are facts.

Check his resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats
Yeah cuz Wikipedia is a credible source. Original sources are hardly reliable and page authors and editors are sketchy at best. See below revision record.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dan_Coats&action=history


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Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 29, 2024, 08:21:26 AM
Yeah cuz Wikipedia is a credible source. Original sources are hardly reliable and page authors and editors are sketchy at best. See below revision record.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dan_Coats&action=history


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Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Collector218 on October 29, 2024, 08:29:59 AM
At UH (manoa), the first thing we're told when doing a paper is we cannot use Wikipedia as a source.
Rightfully so . Especially now days, I notice that a lot of political pages on the site are replacing neutral wording and sources with politically bias sources. In order for you to post on Wikipedia you need to source reference material, but using magazines and political opinion pieces are hardly credible sources. So I assume that is how “activists” are getting around it. It seems that Wikipedia also uses a Reddit/quora style review process so it’s likely coordinated upvotes on politically bias revisions is what’s keeping the activist changes there. Just my assumptions based on my observations.


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Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 29, 2024, 08:41:11 AM
Rightfully so . Especially now days, I notice that a lot of political pages on the site are replacing neutral wording and sources with politically bias sources. In order for you to post on Wikipedia you need to source reference material, but using magazines and political opinion pieces are hardly credible sources. So I assume that is how “activists” are getting around it. It seems that Wikipedia also uses a Reddit/quora style review process so it’s likely coordinated upvotes on politically bias revisions is what’s keeping the activist changes there. Just my assumptions based on my observations.
if I use Wikipedia for anything other than curiosity, i'll read the sources the article cites, and I'll often visit those sources to see what they say within context.

I find Wiki a convenient starting point, but I'll rarely ague that Wikipedia is the gospel on anything.

Trust, but verify!
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 29, 2024, 09:57:56 AM
if I use Wikipedia for anything other than curiosity, i'll read the sources the article cites, and I'll often visit those sources to see what they say within context.

I find Wiki a convenient starting point, but I'll rarely ague that Wikipedia is the gospel on anything.

Trust, but verify!

Wikipedia is also good for entertainment. U can click on 1 topic and more topics relate. Like say you search M16 and then 5.56mm would be able to click to search as well without having to type it in. Or Eugene Stoner, US Army, etc...

When I was at my old job, we had a lot of downtime, so I was on it a lot. Until IT blocked it, but we found out how to get around the "proxy setting". Then they figured that out and we were totally blocked.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: oldfart on October 29, 2024, 11:33:38 AM
Here is another credible source also sitting on a lounge chair with a microphone.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T3nNsGTJ/Sockmonk13.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: hvybarrels on October 29, 2024, 11:47:35 AM
Whatever the democrats accuse us of is what they are either actively planning or already guilty of.

It doesn’t take a genius to recognize the pattern.

Apparently their thought crime internment camps were just about to open for us.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: rhayder on October 29, 2024, 01:08:36 PM
If you want the Bio of the 40 year Republican and Director of National Intelligence that believes Trump to be a Russian agent. You can also find it here:

Dan Coats
https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/C000542 (https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/C000542)
Title: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Collector218 on October 29, 2024, 01:15:36 PM
Dan Coats is a Neocon, his political alignment is closer aligned with the Bushes and the Cheneys and even Obama and Biden than other republicans. He has a lot of motive to oppose Trump. It seems that for now the Republican Party is moving away from Neo-conservatism.


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Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 29, 2024, 01:22:38 PM
If you want the Bio of the 40 year Republican and Director of National Intelligence that believes Trump to be a Russian agent. You can also find it here:

Dan Coats
https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/C000542 (https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/C000542)

Trump was ousted because he was draining the Swamp.

The swamp critters are from all political affiliations, so advertising Coates as a Republican is a ridiculous argument.  Unlike Democrats, Republicans are not blindly loyal to the party they joined.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Collector218 on October 29, 2024, 01:31:23 PM
You also can’t take the criticisms of people who were removed from of his administration seriously because many of them were plants by other politicians or bureaucrats. You kinda just gotta take it from the horses mouth and look at the record and not what people are saying.


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Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 29, 2024, 01:46:00 PM
If you want the Bio of the 40 year Republican and Director of National Intelligence that believes Trump to be a Russian agent. You can also find it here:

Dan Coats
https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/C000542 (https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/C000542)

Do you not believe Robert Muellers report?  Or are you talking about that Trump was not a Russian agent in 2016; but is as of right now?
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 30, 2024, 05:42:43 PM
My prediction for what Trump will do if he wins
-Say a bunch of stupid stuff.
- Anger democrats
-Play a bunch of golf
-Take credit for a bunch of stuff he didn't have that big a roll in
-Blame democrats for things
-Appoint a justice to SCOTUS (hopefully replacing Clarence Thomas)

Other than that I don't predict much significant out of him.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: QUIETShooter on October 30, 2024, 06:03:43 PM
My prediction for what Trump will do if he wins
-Say a bunch of stupid stuff.
- Anger democrats
-Play a bunch of golf
-Take credit for a bunch of stuff he didn't have that big a roll in
-Blame democrats for things
-Appoint a justice to SCOTUS (hopefully replacing Clarence Thomas)

Other than that I don't predict much significant out of him.


You think so?

Watch.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 30, 2024, 06:14:07 PM
My prediction for what Trump will do if he wins
-Say a bunch of stupid stuff.
- Anger democrats
-Play a bunch of golf
-Take credit for a bunch of stuff he didn't have that big a roll in
-Blame democrats for things
-Appoint a justice to SCOTUS (hopefully replacing Clarence Thomas)

Other than that I don't predict much significant out of him.

Can you be more specific?

WHat kind of stupid stuff will he say?
What would he take credit for that he didn't have a big roll in?
Add on, how much roll should one have so they can take credit for doing something?
What kind of things would he blame dems for?
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: macsak on October 30, 2024, 07:30:22 PM
what do baked goods have to do with it?

My prediction for what Trump will do if he wins
-Say a bunch of stupid stuff.
- Anger democrats
-Play a bunch of golf
-Take credit for a bunch of stuff he didn't have that big a roll in
-Blame democrats for things
-Appoint a justice to SCOTUS (hopefully replacing Clarence Thomas)

Other than that I don't predict much significant out of him.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 04, 2024, 12:42:12 AM
what do baked goods have to do with it?

???
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 04, 2024, 12:45:21 AM
Can you be more specific?

WHat kind of stupid stuff will he say?
What would he take credit for that he didn't have a big roll in?
Add on, how much roll should one have so they can take credit for doing something?
What kind of things would he blame dems for?

I don't think even Jesus could predict the stupid things Trump will say in the future.

Taking too much credit is part of the job. Congress gets a law through and the president signs it and then claims he did something good. Or the president delegates some task then claims how good he did the task. On many things, but not all, presidents, all presidents, take way too much credit in my opinion.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 04, 2024, 02:04:50 AM
I don't think even Jesus could predict the stupid things Trump will say in the future.

Taking too much credit is part of the job. Congress gets a law through and the president signs it and then claims he did something good. Or the president delegates some task then claims how good he did the task. On many things, but not all, presidents, all presidents, take way too much credit in my opinion.

I don't think Jesus spent his time predicting what words will come out of people's mouths.  Just funny you'd try to invoke Jesus when you don't believe in Him.

If you followed one major bill from start to law, you'd realize it's not as simple as you think.

Parties and committees play Monopoly with the laws, voting for bills the other side wants in exchange for what they want.  When it gets to the President to sign, it's more of a formality.  Research how many bills are vetoed in each term, and how many of those were passed via a Congressional override vote.

So ehen they brag about passing a bill, there was likely a lot of horse trading in the back rooms in order to get it passed for signing.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: macsak on November 04, 2024, 05:36:11 AM
focus...

???
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 04, 2024, 05:55:10 AM
what do baked goods have to do with it?

???

Hot cross buns.  Hot cross buns.  One a penny, two a penny, Hot cross buns.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 04, 2024, 08:04:46 AM
My prediction for what Trump will do if he wins
-Say a bunch of stupid stuff.
- Anger democrats
-Play a bunch of golf
-Take credit for a bunch of stuff he didn't have that big a roll in
-Blame democrats for things
-Appoint a justice to SCOTUS (hopefully replacing Clarence Thomas)

Other than that I don't predict much significant out of him.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 04, 2024, 10:05:05 AM
I don't think even Jesus could predict the stupid things Trump will say in the future.

Taking too much credit is part of the job. Congress gets a law through and the president signs it and then claims he did something good. Or the president delegates some task then claims how good he did the task. On many things, but not all, presidents, all presidents, take way too much credit in my opinion.

You didn't answer my questions. 

I would assume everyone says stupid stuff. U stated that all presidents take way too much credit for things. So basically, you're making a neutral statement of things that will happen no matter what. This is why I asked you for specifics on your statement.  You can just say "I have none, but (enter your post above). So my statement goes for everyone."
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 05, 2024, 12:50:43 AM
You didn't answer my questions. 

I would assume everyone says stupid stuff. U stated that all presidents take way too much credit for things. So basically, you're making a neutral statement of things that will happen no matter what. This is why I asked you for specifics on your statement.  You can just say "I have none, but (enter your post above). So my statement goes for everyone."

I didn't answer because I can't make such specific predictions of the future because I don't know the future. I can only make general predictions based on past performance given those are all things he has done before
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 05, 2024, 12:54:10 AM
I don't think Jesus spent his time predicting what words will come out of people's mouths.  Just funny you'd try to invoke Jesus when you don't believe in Him.

I never said I don't believe in Jesus. The point was that the things Trump has said are so odd that no one could ever predict what he would say.

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If you followed one major bill from start to law, you'd realize it's not as simple as you think.

Parties and committees play Monopoly with the laws, voting for bills the other side wants in exchange for what they want.  When it gets to the President to sign, it's more of a formality.  Research how many bills are vetoed in each term, and how many of those were passed via a Congressional override vote.

So ehen they brag about passing a bill, there was likely a lot of horse trading in the back rooms in order to get it passed for signing.

I am aware of the general process, I just don't think it warrants that much credit on the part of the president.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 07, 2024, 12:44:18 PM
After Roe v. Wade was overturned by the Supreme Court, this happened in 2021:

Quote
Last year, a group of Democrats —including Representatives Jerrold Nadler
of New York, Hank Johnson of Georgia, Mondaire Jones of New York and
Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts— tried to pass a proposal to expand
the number of seats on the Supreme Court from nine to 13.

Democrats hate that they lost their liberal activist judges (thanks to Trump replacing them).  As usual, instead of accepting a loss, many Democrats pushed to change the game.

I think Trump ought to consider expanding the court as a gesture of goodwill to those Democrats.  But, instead of Biden and his Democrat handlers making the appointments, it'll be Trump and a GOP majority Senate.

Careful what you wish for!

 :rofl: :rofl:  :geekdanc:
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 07, 2024, 01:54:12 PM
I didn't answer because I can't make such specific predictions of the future because I don't know the future. I can only make general predictions based on past performance given those are all things he has done before

You didn't answer because you can't and don't want to be held if he doesn't make said statement. Cause then your playing both sides would not be possible as you gave a direct answer.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 07, 2024, 02:01:32 PM


I am aware of the general process, I just don't think it warrants that much credit on the part of the president.

I would say each gets 33% credit. Say we had a pro 2a senate and house, but an anti 2a POTUS. There is no way POTUS would sign the bill into law.  Real example, The Hudson Bill (National Reciprocity). THis was the 1st time ever that a bill like this passed it's first hurdle. Trump said he would sign it if it came to his desk, but the bill died as the house voted against it.  This was with a GOP controlled house and senate. Obama had the same GOP controlled house/senate, but no bill like this made it pass it's first stage.

If a bill doesn't pass either house or senate, but POTUS says he worked with a rep/senator to have a bill created, then POTUS should get the 1/3 credit, even though it never came across his desk.

This is why I asked you what % involvement should one have in order to take credit and you didn't reply with a number. Guess numbers are definitive too, so you wouldn't be able to play both sides.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 14, 2024, 06:35:41 PM
List of things he's doing within one week after becoming President-Elect --
not counting all the transition work and cabinet positions:

https://youtube.com/shorts/2wkCk6vcT_8
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 17, 2024, 12:46:05 AM
You didn't answer because you can't and don't want to be held if he doesn't make said statement. Cause then your playing both sides would not be possible as you gave a direct answer.

Or because I simply don't possess the powers of clairvoyance.....
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 17, 2024, 12:47:02 AM
This is why I asked you what % involvement should one have in order to take credit and you didn't reply with a number. Guess numbers are definitive too, so you wouldn't be able to play both sides.

Silly questions don't deserve a serious answer.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 18, 2024, 08:46:24 AM
Or because I simply don't possess the powers of clairvoyance.....

Or what's more simple is that you don't want to make a firm statement where you can be shown youre wrong.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 18, 2024, 08:46:43 AM
Silly questions don't deserve a serious answer.

Silly to who?  Is this how you deflect when called out?
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 18, 2024, 05:36:41 PM
THIS is how you know the Deep State is panicking over Trump's electoral win:

Obviously the opposition media will use words like revenge and retaliation, but if they did something wrong and illegal, the correct word is justice.


DOJ and FBI officials reach out to lawyers
as potential Trump revenge prosecutions loom

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Multiple current and former senior Justice Department and FBI officials
have begun reaching out to lawyers in anticipation of being criminally
investigated by the Trump administration, according to three people with
knowledge of their deliberations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-fbi-officials-reach-lawyers-potential-trump-revenge-prosecutions-l-rcna179737
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 18, 2024, 05:47:20 PM
I think every office under the Executive Branch should have a paid leave week as soon as Trump is in office and the new AG has a minute to set things up.  Every single laptop, cellphone, computer hard drive, cloud account, and printout needs to cloned, copied and preserved. 

If something preventative isn't done, we'll see another rash of hard disk failures and server backup erasures days before a subpoena expires or congressional hearing is scheduled.

The rats are still running the ship even if there's a new captain.  Need to throw a net over the ship so nothing disappears. 
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 19, 2024, 01:39:34 AM
Silly to who?  Is this how you deflect when called out?

Silly to anyone with common sense. I can't predict the future so....
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 19, 2024, 08:07:28 AM
Silly to anyone with common sense. I can't predict the future so....

Nice statement (sarcasm) since you don't want to answer, like usual.
Title: Re: What Trump Will Do If He Wins
Post by: Kalikikopa on November 19, 2024, 12:09:48 PM
Are you fearful of what Trump has told you he will do? Are you fearful he will terminate the Constitution as he promised?

Dan Coats a lifelong Republican and the Director of National Intelligence under Trump believes that Trump is a Russian asset and being blackmailed by Putin. Now Elon Musk has been meeting with Putin to discuss foreign policy if Trump wins. These are facts.

Check his resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats

and yet he had the Russian checks made out to the Bidens.