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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: Bigkahuna808 on April 18, 2013, 09:51:28 PM

Title: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 18, 2013, 09:51:28 PM
I know my wtb a mosin thread is getting off topic I'm gonna lock it up.
Figured I ceate a place for us to post up pics and share ideas.

Sooo I added another mosin today.  A 1943 iz 91/30 in good condition still in cia packing from years ago.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/528389_4564392078878_1505688487_n.jpg)

So that makes 3 bought this month:
-1944 IZ m44
-1933 IZ 91/30 hex
-1934 IZ 91/30 round

Need to find me a nice finnish m38 next
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 18, 2013, 10:23:46 PM
I think you really need that C&R!

My three new Mosins are in pieces now.  All the short pieces are in a pan, and the barrels are in PVC pipes with one end capped.  I'm going to soak them in mineral spirits this weekend and get them super clean! 

The stocks will be wrapped and left in the hot sun.  I read heat is the best method of getting the cosmoline out of the wood pores.

I'm debating about refinishing the stocks.  I think I'll wait until after I test fire them.  Varnishing will take longer than I want to wait before seeing if they shoot straight.  Yeah, I'm impatient, too!!   :shake:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 18, 2013, 10:42:47 PM
Nice!  Salutes go out to Iraqverteran for the mosin tips.
I've been rubbing down the wood with howards feed amd wax.
I did the hot boilng water today with simple green.  Like a moron i decided to hold the front site hood and poyr boiling water.  Bad idea my fingers now hate me.

I got this new piece at a damn good price. I thought it was in okay condtion when I spoke to the seller but it cleaned up nice.  I'd rate it good to vg condtion.   Bore came out very strong.   I was planning on chopping this one up and making a 16" beast mosin truck gun.  But condtion might me too nice to do that.

Moose post pics!
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 19, 2013, 01:31:11 AM
Thanks for starting this thread Bigk. Should be receiving a call from OGC tomorrow to pick up my M44 laminate, pictures to follow.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 19, 2013, 08:04:30 PM
Range day this sunday if you guys wanna meet up
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: TeamMidori on April 19, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
Howzit kahuna
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 19, 2013, 08:23:48 PM
i want an m44 laminate next. im jealous!

i have a '43 91/30 with a 2x7-32 hi lux scope with 1 piece scope mount on the weaver under the factory rear iron sight. used to have a bushnell trs-25 on it. red dot wouldve matched a 38 or 44 more.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 19, 2013, 08:30:41 PM
Range day this sunday if you guys wanna meet up
if i can make it id love to meet up for a bit to see other mosins. my scope isnt perfectly zeroed though. if anyone has a laser boresighter for a mosin i could borrow for a moment, ill let them try some expensive renaissance wax on their wood stock  ;D


Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 19, 2013, 08:59:17 PM
Were shooting for 10 am sunday the 21st.  Pm if you wanna come by ill give you my number.
I only have 1 rifle frame hopfully someone can bring another so we can shoot at 50 or 100.  Even better of we can get a stall inline with the steel targets.

What mount did I buy jaynick?  I'm looking at the brassstacker or the jmeck.  Only prob is I need a bent bolt if I choose to use a long rifle scope.  The best guy for the bolts "boltman" is backed up 3 months.

Sup midori nice meeting you today at hpd
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 19, 2013, 09:15:59 PM
Ummm....If we're talking April 2013, then that would be Sunday the 21st

 :wacko:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 19, 2013, 09:26:04 PM
Lol corrected date
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 19, 2013, 11:00:25 PM
Range day this sunday if you guys wanna meet up
Man, I wish I could hit up the range on weekends. Have fun :shaka:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Pit808 on April 19, 2013, 11:20:56 PM
now you need a m38 and 91/59  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 19, 2013, 11:50:32 PM
now you need a m38 and 91/59  :thumbsup:

I hope to come across a nice finnish m38 and hopefully a sniper.  I'm awaiting my c&r I should know in the next week or 2. 

I hope to have a mosin shoot gathering once every few months more often if the turnout gets good.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 19, 2013, 11:55:17 PM
M38 and 91/59 are the other 2 Russian carbine variants. Your thinking Finnish m39.....WANT  :shake:
Mosin shoot out should be fun, a coworker of mine decided to get  a Type 53 when I told him I got my M44 and I'm hoping to find an M39 in the next couple months.

I think you really need that C&R!

My three new Mosins are in pieces now.  All the short pieces are in a pan, and the barrels are in PVC pipes with one end capped.  I'm going to soak them in mineral spirits this weekend and get them super clean! 

The stocks will be wrapped and left in the hot sun.  I read heat is the best method of getting the cosmoline out of the wood pores.

I'm debating about refinishing the stocks.  I think I'll wait until after I test fire them.  Varnishing will take longer than I want to wait before seeing if they shoot straight.  Yeah, I'm impatient, too!!   :shake:

Sunlight sounds good but I am also far too impatient. Akimbo heat gun and blow dryer when I need to remove cosmo, though I do hope my m44 is clean, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 12:10:12 AM
Lol good catch the Finnish is 28 or 39 while the russian is m38.
Soo many to collect so little room in the safe.

Next shoot well plan in adavnce so more time for people join the koko head red army shooter fans
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 20, 2013, 01:07:20 AM
Lol good catch the Finnish is 28 or 39 while the russian is m38.
Soo many to collect so little room in the safe.

Next shoot well plan in adavnce so more time for people join the koko head red army shooter fans

I had to look it up but there were some finnish captured m38's. Pretty rare though.
Any chance you'll be able to go to the range on a Thursday? Otherwise I guess I'll have to start a weekday surplus rifle faction.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 01:50:51 AM
I had to look it up but there were some finnish captured m38's. Pretty rare though.
Any chance you'll be able to go to the range on a Thursday? Otherwise I guess I'll have to start a weekday surplus rifle faction.

I'm sure I can take a day off in the future.  Hopefully we get this going we can plan in advance so we can all meet up.  I also would like to get a ar500 12" plate to shoot.  I'm worried that the 7 62x54 round may make swiss chese out of a 3/8 plate.  I would go 1/2 but price jumps and I still need to build a frame
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 20, 2013, 02:13:34 AM
I've got 4" 6" and 8" ar500 plates. I was planning on adding a 10" or 12" hexagonal plate. Now I have a reason. O0
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 07:54:05 AM
I've got 4" 6" and 8" ar500 plates. I was planning on adding a 10" or 12" hexagonal plate. Now I have a reason. O0

Nice where did u order them from?  How did u build the stand frame?

I've been weary about some of the surpluss ammo that some guys state that they have brought surpluss ammo and unknowingly it was AP ammo (armor pericing) which will kill a 1" plate
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 20, 2013, 11:03:28 AM
Nice where did u order them from?  How did u build the stand frame?

I've been weary about some of the surpluss ammo that some guys state that they have brought surpluss ammo and unknowingly it was AP ammo (armor pericing) which will kill a 1" plate

if youre worried you have pseudo AP ammo, just trade with me for surplus non-AP  ;D itd be nice to come across some of that to have on hand in case i need to disable an engine block after i run out of 1oz slugs  :rofl:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 12:24:23 PM
Made this last night for doing a barrel flush at the range.  Hose fits right into the chamber pour water into funnel with barrel hanging  over end of bench table.  Clean like normal after
Cost about $3 to make from city mill

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/164656_4571218969546_1215422394_n.jpg)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 20, 2013, 12:32:38 PM
Nice where did u order them from?  How did u build the stand frame?

I've been weary about some of the surpluss ammo that some guys state that they have brought surpluss ammo and unknowingly it was AP ammo (armor pericing) which will kill a 1" plate
Maybe a 1" mild steel. I'd imagine 1/2" ar500 would handle ap since it can handle bmg. 3/8" ar500 can handle .30 cal at 100.


I bought mine from eBay. Free shipping. I just used a standard wood frame. If you don't miss much the frame can last at least 4 or 5 trips before the shrapnel destroys it.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 20, 2013, 12:58:48 PM
Were shooting for 10 am sunday the 21st.  Pm if you wanna come by ill give you my number.
I only have 1 rifle frame hopfully someone can bring another so we can shoot at 50 or 100.  Even better of we can get a stall inline with the steel targets.

What mount did I buy jaynick?  I'm looking at the brassstacker or the jmeck.  Only prob is I need a bent bolt if I choose to use a long rifle scope.  The best guy for the bolts "boltman" is backed up 3 months.

hmm 10am is a little early but ill try. i usually dont go til 1pm. please pm me your number please in case i can make it.



the mount is actually a UTG custom fit. i needed to saw off the metal end cap on the upper handguard and use a torch to knock off my old rear iron sight completely to expose the dovetail.
 the brass stacker sits too high for me but at least u keep the iron sights. i think i contacted jmeck and they took forever to respond and wait time was long if i remember correctly. it couldve been another vender that makes a custom one with an awkward name but jmeck sounds familiar.

i wanted to get the scope mounted as low as possible to keep the axis close to the barrel, plus i can get a half decent cheekweld with my current setup. i didnt want to add on a slip on padded cheek riser which wouldve been required with the brass stacker.

i used to have a trs-25 mounted on a cheap $8 rail that replaced the upper half (the adjustable leaf) of the iron sight. it actually was rock solid for a $8 rail. i couldve mounted a scope directly onto that rail but it would sit higher than id want.

Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 20, 2013, 01:02:33 PM
oh forgot to mention i dont have a bent bolt handle because im running a scout scope with long eye relief.



oh yeah and if i am able to make it i have a target frame i can bring. also have choke "splatter" targets of various sizes  :shaka: 
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 20, 2013, 01:06:42 PM
Nice where did u order them from?  How did u build the stand frame?

I've been weary about some of the surpluss ammo that some guys state that they have brought surpluss ammo and unknowingly it was AP ammo (armor pericing) which will kill a 1" plate

ebay vendor targetmanllc was recommended to me by multiple people on different forums.


he even sells 10x13 ar500 body armor plates that gets sprayed with a rhino liner/truck bed coating to greatly reduce ricochets and shrapnel. ive been wondering if its worth applying that yourself to minimize frame damage. might not be cost or time effective, who knows. 
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 20, 2013, 01:11:13 PM
You can shoot holes through your frame regardless. A metal frame will last much longer though, the shrapnel from the disintegrating bullets wouldnt eat away at it. I believe mine came from targetman as well.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 01:17:04 PM
Yeah I'm pricing out a 1/2" on ebay about $70 shipped.  I gotta wait til next month
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 01:26:17 PM
new time for sunday the 21st meetup at 11:30 am
Gives guys a chance to do a little family time in the am and also gives time for the early bird shooters to finish shooting.  I'm gonna bring about 60 rounds or so
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 20, 2013, 05:45:11 PM
new time for sunday the 21st meetup at 11:30 am
Gives guys a chance to do a little family time in the am and also gives time for the early bird shooters to finish shooting.  I'm gonna bring about 60 rounds or so

im 85% on making it down. if i can make it im gonna bring a few other rifles and a target frame.

Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
Sounds good.  Hope to see ya there
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 20, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
Count on me to be there, if the creek don't rise!

I just finished cleaning the metal parts of my 91/30, and they are marinating in Ballistol before I reassemble them.  I can wait to do a full-on cleaning of the stock after I decide on revarnishing or not.  A little cosmoline won't hurt as long as it's on the outside.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 07:12:05 PM
Nice!  Sounds like you'll be ready to go tomorrow
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Q on April 20, 2013, 10:59:04 PM
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 20, 2013, 11:47:22 PM
I've been rethinking the scope mounting thing for me and it looks like if I can get a period correct scope mount,  install plus, bent bolt mod plus cost of the gun.  You are looking at a simlar price of a refurb sniper built to work as one for about $600 low as $500. 
I may just buy the sniper and seel off a round reciver.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 21, 2013, 02:03:22 AM
Yeah I'm pricing out a 1/2" on ebay about $70 shipped.  I gotta wait til next month

3/8" should be sufficient, but you can never be too careful.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 21, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
Bench 72
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: mosin nagant on April 21, 2013, 07:08:31 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 21, 2013, 09:43:15 PM
Thanks to thoes who came out to shoot or stopped by...next time "don't be shy just say hi!"  Even if you don't have a mosin I'm always down to let you shoot off a few rounds.


Will keep this thread going.  Gonna setup another mosin get together in 2 months is Sat a better day than sunday?  Looking at the weekend of June 23rd.  Weekend after fathers day.

After 2 hours of cleaning up the guns for "long term storage" I can relax.  That surpluss ammo is nasty stuff very dirtty and is corosive.  Had the most fun with doing the boiling water barrel flush.

Gotta say the mosin nagant m44 is brutal to shoot.  Not only doest it kick hard like a mule, there is a big muzzle flash.  So my mission to make a truck gun 16" mosin ain't gonna happen.  Its just to much power to monkey around with.  The m91/30 is just a joy to shoot on the other hand.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: SpeedTek on April 22, 2013, 08:55:06 AM
Just put a muzzle brake on it!
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 22, 2013, 01:43:04 PM
Range Report/Mosin Shooting Update:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=8122.msg77747#msg77747 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=8122.msg77747#msg77747)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 22, 2013, 02:04:54 PM
The m44 is in. Numbers matching 1945 production laminate, though the upper hand guard looks like hardwood. Pics to follow
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 22, 2013, 02:14:23 PM
The m44 is in. Numbers matching 1945 production laminate, though the upper hand guard looks like hardwood. Pics to follow

Yeah, I remember my first ...  Mosin Nagant!   Seems like just a couple weeks ago!   :D

Probably because it was!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 22, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
Nice post pics when u can
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 22, 2013, 03:54:52 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img12/6017/img20130422153708023.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img202/8941/img20130422153711842.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img339/7769/img20130422153714994.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img13/820/img20130422154310396.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/img20130422154310396.jpg/)

Looks to be exactly what I wanted, laminate stock with all numbers matching, low wall from late 1945.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 22, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
I guess I should cross-post my pics, just so they are in the Mosin thread!

Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 22, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
Beautiful Tula Hex  :thumbsup:. I want one thats been recycled into a carbine whether it be 38, 44, or 91/59.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 22, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
looks like everyones posting
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/jaynick808/20130421_154742_zps3c79afd7.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jaynick808/media/20130421_154742_zps3c79afd7.jpg.html)
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/jaynick808/20130421_154706_zps8045c54b.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jaynick808/media/20130421_154706_zps8045c54b.jpg.html)


sorry i couldnt make it this past sunday. had to drive someone to the hospital last minute. i wont miss the next one!

i coated the bolt safety pull and bolt handle in rubber for grip and corrosion resistance  O0
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 22, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
Nice, what scope are you using, LER rifle or pistol?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 22, 2013, 09:36:52 PM
I've never told a guy this but you guys have nice wood
Hey jaynick which mount is that?  The utg?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 22, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
Nice, what scope are you using, LER rifle or pistol?
its a hi-lux 2-7x32 "rifle/scout" ler. mosin needs about 10-14 inches of eye relief and ive read most pistol scopes sweet spot for eye relief is about 14-18 inches since you would be holding your arms out extended while shooting a pistol. scout scopes sweet spots are about 10-14 inches of relief so i figured id try the hi lux since there arent many other options under $300.

yes its a UTG mount. had to trim the metal band off of the top handguard and knock off the factory rear iron sight to get to the dovetail. it remained solid after about 20 shots. if it doesnt hold, i forgot to drill a detent for the vertical set screw so if necessary ill temporarily "pin" it in place so it wont push forward from recoil.



Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on April 22, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
I've never told a guy this but you guys have nice wood
Hey jaynick which mount is that?  The utg?
glad someone noticed my wood  8)
ive spent countless hours wiping out the sticky "cosmoline," followed by bleaching the "dark areas", and rubbing it down by hand for many nights with something conveniently called tung oil  :rofl:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 25, 2013, 09:46:55 PM
Today was a blast.
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6940/37616364086653593032812.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/211/37616364086653593032812.jpg/)

Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 25, 2013, 10:00:39 PM
Hey!  That ammo wrapper looks familiar! :)

It's addictive, shooting these Mosins!  How was the accuracy of yours today??
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 25, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
It was pretty accurate. Didn't have to adjust the sights, just need to adjust to the rifle. I probably shouldn't have fired it 25-30 times, but the obnoxiously loud report and giant fireballs are addictive.

Need more ammo >:D
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 25, 2013, 11:16:18 PM
"This is my boom stick" how many pics did you have to take to get this awesome shot?...
So how's your shoulder?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 25, 2013, 11:31:05 PM
It was pretty accurate. Didn't have to adjust the sights, just need to adjust to the rifle. I probably shouldn't have fired it 25-30 times, but the obnoxiously loud report and giant fireballs are addictive.

Need more ammo >:D

I stopped by OGC and stocked up today!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 25, 2013, 11:42:14 PM
I stopped by OGC and stocked up today!   :thumbsup:
What's the going rate at OGC for a full spam can? My buddy with a type 53 on the way wants to stock up.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: James Dean on April 25, 2013, 11:46:41 PM
Just picked up a mosin pu sniper. Does anyone have go, no go gauges that I can use to check headspace?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 25, 2013, 11:51:01 PM
Just picked up a mosin pu sniper. Does anyone have go, no go gauges that I can use to check headspace?
Send a PM to moosed.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 26, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
Just picked up a mosin pu sniper. Does anyone have go, no go gauges that I can use to check headspace?

Nice post pics where did u get it from?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 26, 2013, 12:27:57 AM
What's the going rate at OGC for a full spam can? My buddy with a type 53 on the way wants to stock up.

$179 + tax for 440 rounds surplus.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 26, 2013, 12:29:37 AM
Just picked up a mosin pu sniper. Does anyone have go, no go gauges that I can use to check headspace?

I have a NO-GO.  No real need for GO. 

Range this weekend?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 26, 2013, 09:37:40 AM
According to the old time shooters on gunboards.com the mosin area mosins rarely have head space issues.  Their bolt face is heavy and creates a very positive lockup.  But with that being said its always better be safe than sorry.

Just make sure you set the firing pin postion using the tear drop tool guages.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 26, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
Check this out. Bad round or some other issue?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/27/upubedeq.jpg)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 26, 2013, 11:46:20 PM
Was that from firing or in the ammo can.  Ive seen other posts where they show ammo with split cases from the spam cans not being seal. And air and moister leak in and ruin ammo
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 27, 2013, 12:07:48 AM
This is post firing.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 27, 2013, 12:26:25 AM
Split cases when using surplus ammo is not unusual.  Visually check the rounds before using them.  They should not have creases or dings. 

Example of a Split Casing in Surplus Ammunition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHH8MJ-bCzI#)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 27, 2013, 02:20:25 AM
Thanks for the clip moosed. Looks like a chance occurrence, all the ammo looked just fine on the outside. I guess I was lucky it didn't fully split.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 27, 2013, 08:23:47 AM
Moosed is right its fairly common the metal supposedly gets softer over the years and the pressure from the firing may cause a cartridge to warp, split or expand.   If it keeps happening try another batch of ammo.  I don't think it could be the headspace...but I could be excess old comso that might be caked in.  When the cosmo heats up and melts it can leak into the breach
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 28, 2013, 07:56:47 AM
Anyone happen to have a spare upper handgaurd for a 91/30?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 28, 2013, 11:39:30 AM
Anyone happen to have a spare upper handgaurd for a 91/30?

$15 + $5.75 shipping ($20.75)
https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/1590 (https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/1590)

$12.99 + 7.95 shipping ($20.94)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOSIN-NAGANT-PART-M91-30-HANDGUARD-/200914485456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec76fc0d0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOSIN-NAGANT-PART-M91-30-HANDGUARD-/200914485456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec76fc0d0)

$18.00 + $6.00 shipping  ($24.00)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosin-Nagant-Handguard-M91-30-VG-Condition-MN-38B-/120497167006?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c0e30da9e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosin-Nagant-Handguard-M91-30-VG-Condition-MN-38B-/120497167006?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c0e30da9e)

You should verify with the seller the condition and finish of the specific hand guard you need.  Most have a variety of shades and colors, so the more info you give (photo?), the closer they can match it.

That assumes you care about the appearance.  If you plan on refinishing it anyway, or don't mind the "roof" being a different color than the "body", then just order one.

If you can find one locally (or online) cheaper than those, let me know.  I may need one,too, eventually!

Good luck!
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 28, 2013, 01:01:28 PM
Thanks moosed.  I was hoping someone had once on island left over from a project.  If I order I may just but a bodys or something aftermarket
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on April 30, 2013, 10:30:03 PM
Hows THIS (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B008AY8KAA/?tag=2ahawaii-20) for a Mosin accessory?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on April 30, 2013, 11:02:46 PM
Hows THIS (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B008AY8KAA/?tag=2ahawaii-20) for a Mosin accessory?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If the Soviets had come up with this accessory, they might have been unstoppable!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on April 30, 2013, 11:53:35 PM
Tell me you didn't buy that yet?????  You gotta watch the install video of it on youtube..
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 01, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
Tell me you didn't buy that yet?????  You gotta watch the install video of it on youtube..

No, I didn't buy that .......

YET!    :crazy:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 07, 2013, 11:56:38 AM
Mosin-Nagant 91/30 rifles in stock now at Aim Surplus:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=709&name=Russian+1891%2f30+7.62x54R+Mosin+Nagant+Rifles (http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=709&name=Russian+1891%2f30+7.62x54R+Mosin+Nagant+Rifles)

UPDATE  5/8/2013:  SOLD OUT
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 07, 2013, 10:41:01 PM
I bought a accurizing kit off one of the guys on gunboards.com its supposed to be a modern version of how the russian snipers "bedded" thier rifles and also includes the trigger shims for getting rid of that awful creep and spongy feeling.   I'll post pics of the install when I get it.
I know it won't make me.a better shooter but should give me the confidence of Ron Jermey
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: GreenStomper on May 08, 2013, 10:27:50 AM

I know it won't make me.a better shooter but should give me the confidence of Ron Jermey
Pretty cocky   ;D
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 08, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
Mosin-Nagant 91/30 rifles in stock now at Aim Surplus:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=709&name=Russian+1891%2f30+7.62x54R+Mosin+Nagant+Rifles (http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=709&name=Russian+1891%2f30+7.62x54R+Mosin+Nagant+Rifles)

UPDATE  5/8/2013:  SOLD OUT
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 08, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
UPDATE  5/8/2013:  SOLD OUT



I wonder if they have any more stock that needs to be logged in or if that was it on the 91/30's. They should have M44's in stock any day now, too bad I'm craving an M38.  :wacko:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 08, 2013, 09:46:24 PM


I wonder if they have any more stock that needs to be logged in or if that was it on the 91/30's. They should have M44's in stock any day now, too bad I'm craving an M38.  :wacko:

M38?  Say no more!  :)

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411553249/Russian+M38+Mosin+Nagant+Excellent+7.62x54R (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411553249/Russian+M38+Mosin+Nagant+Excellent+7.62x54R)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 08, 2013, 11:25:05 PM
Regretting selling my m43.  Maybe its just the empty space in the safe teasing me.  Time to look for a tula or a Finnish..Hopefully one comes up for sale that I like.   
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 08, 2013, 11:43:07 PM
M38?  Say no more!  :)

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411553249/Russian+M38+Mosin+Nagant+Excellent+7.62x54R (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411553249/Russian+M38+Mosin+Nagant+Excellent+7.62x54R)

 Been looking at the reviews on buds m38s every day for a month. I had to somehow stop myself from ordering one. Then midway sent me a notification this morning that Glock 30 mags were in stock, bought some of those even though I don't have one yet.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 09, 2013, 12:37:02 AM
Been looking at the reviews on buds m38s every day for a month. I had to somehow stop myself from ordering one. Then midway sent me a notification this morning that Glock 30 mags were in stock, bought some of those even though I don't have one yet.

Bud's has a no-risk, money-back guarantee.  When you go to the FFL to pick up the rifle, check it out completely.  If you are unsatisfied with the purchase, simply refuse delivery from the FFL.  Bud's will pay for return shipping and issue you a refund. 

My new Mosin just arrived today from Bud's.  OGC was closed, so it will be delivered tomorrow.  I ordered a 91/30 so I will have a range gun in place of my Tula Hex.  I want to prevent any damage dragging it to and from the range. 

I paid $70 less from Bud's.  The gun and shipping were both much cheaper than my GB purchase.  I'm anxious to see if the quality is actually "excellent", which is the description on the listing:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411540200/Mosin-Nagant+M9130+7.62X54R+Excellent+Condition (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411540200/Mosin-Nagant+M9130+7.62X54R+Excellent+Condition)

I'll post pics and give an update this weekend.

This makes 2 @ 91/30 and 2 @ M44.  :)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 09, 2013, 09:14:47 AM
So  theoretically I can keep sending the guns back till I get a random tula hex or tulla m38/44
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 09, 2013, 09:45:13 AM
So  theoretically I can keep sending the guns back till I get a random tula hex or tulla m38/44

Bud's has several listings for Mosin rifles.  One is for Hex Receiver:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411553240/RUSSIAN+HEX+Mosin+Nagant+M9130+7.62X54R (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411553240/RUSSIAN+HEX+Mosin+Nagant+M9130+7.62X54R)

So, I ASSUME they keep the Hex rifles aside for that, so they can charge $20 more!

I notice they don't list the Hex rifles as "Excellent Condition", and at least one reviewer stated the condition of the rifle he received was not very good. 

Before you go crazy and order a batch of 20, intending to keep just one, make sure you have your C&R (so there is no chance of having to pay that FFL), and verify with Bud's whether all costs are included in the guarantee:  shipping both ways, any credit card fees, etc.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 09, 2013, 11:32:55 AM
Yeah got my c&r last month I'm itching to use it.  Yeah I need to check the policy on shipping
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: jaynick on May 09, 2013, 01:28:37 PM
Regretting selling my m43.  Maybe its just the empty space in the safe teasing me.  Time to look for a tula or a Finnish..Hopefully one comes up for sale that I like.
u mean this old one?   ;D
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/jaynick808/20130425_160135_zps4476ad75.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jaynick808/media/20130425_160135_zps4476ad75.jpg.html)

heres how she looks now
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/jaynick808/20130509_122845_zps4710d1b7.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jaynick808/media/20130509_122845_zps4710d1b7.jpg.html)
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/jaynick808/20130509_122754_zpsd0477854.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jaynick808/media/20130509_122754_zpsd0477854.jpg.html)
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Post by: Q on May 09, 2013, 08:59:48 PM
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: spanner1751 on May 09, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Finn M39.

I got this one from Pat Burns http://www.gunsnammo.com/. (http://www.gunsnammo.com/.)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/Spanner1751/finlandflag2copy.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Spanner1751/media/finlandflag2copy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 09, 2013, 09:23:24 PM
Wow now I'm double hurt...nice huns guys
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 10, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
Picked up my 1939 Izzy M91/30 today from OGC/Bud's Gun Shop.  I think I'm a happy, Happy, HAPPY camper!!

Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 10, 2013, 10:53:55 PM
Nice new member of the family there moosed.  I was gonna text you ask how she turned out.  Crikey...she's a beaut!
How's the bore, crown and does she have matching numbers?
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 10, 2013, 10:54:31 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Finn M39.

I got this one from Pat Burns http://www.gunsnammo.com/. (http://www.gunsnammo.com/.)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/Spanner1751/finlandflag2copy.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Spanner1751/media/finlandflag2copy.jpg.html)
Thanks for the link....next paycheck
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 10, 2013, 11:41:12 PM
Nice new member of the family there moosed.  I was gonna text you ask how she turned out.  Crikey...she's a beaut!
How's the bore, crown and does she have matching numbers?
Bore has very strong rifling.  Needs a thorough cleaning before I can tell how shiny.

Crown looks great!  Muzzle appears counter-bored, but very slightly.  Bullet inserted down the muzzle has some wiggle, but not excessive.

All 4 numbers on the rifle match ... no forced matching or strike-outs!  The only mismatch is the bayonet.

The quality of this gun for the price is unbelievable.  I'm a BudsGunShop.com fan now!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 14, 2013, 10:48:22 PM
Anybody looking for a Mosin-Nagant Sniper Rifle in AS NEW condition?  Check here:   :love:

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=38265 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=38265)
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 14, 2013, 11:04:40 PM
Anybody looking for a Mosin-Nagant Sniper Rifle in AS NEW condition?  Check here:   :love:

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=38265 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=38265)

Wow same price as a new one.

Sooooo I got my accurizing kit today...it basically helps you free float the barrel and alllows you reall tighten the action screws.   No trigger pull help though.  Kinda bumed about that
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: FATMANWA on May 15, 2013, 03:33:15 PM
Hello everyone, new guy here. Wasn't sure if this is the right place to post I am I interested in buying a mosin and was wondering if anyone knew if any stores locally had any. I checked OGC and they had one. Just didn't want to drive all over the island looking for them.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 15, 2013, 04:01:19 PM
Hello everyone, new guy here. Wasn't sure if this is the right place to post I am I interested in buying a mosin and was wondering if anyone knew if any stores locally had any. I checked OGC and they had one. Just didn't want to drive all over the island looking for them.
time to make some phone calls
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 15, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
Hello everyone, new guy here. Wasn't sure if this is the right place to post I am I interested in buying a mosin and was wondering if anyone knew if any stores locally had any. I checked OGC and they had one. Just didn't want to drive all over the island looking for them.

They have one for $299 don't know the specs on it.  What kind of mosin do you want what's your budget?  I may have 1 spare I'm willing to letgo.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: FATMANWA on May 15, 2013, 04:29:22 PM
To be honest I am not sure what model other than the dream PU. I am probably willing to pay$150 when all said and done for a good working one. Don't really care about looks as I could just refinish it if I want.

Yea I plan in making some calls the next few days, thought I would ask here if anyone by chance already knew. I plan on going to HPD in Friday and starting the process for a long gun permit so I will be ahead of the game.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 15, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
To be honest I am not sure what model other than the dream PU. I am probably willing to pay$150 when all said and done for a good working one. Don't really care about looks as I could just refinish it if I want.

Yea I plan in making some calls the next few days, thought I would ask here if anyone by chance already knew. I plan on going to HPD in Friday and starting the process for a long gun permit so I will be ahead of the game.

$150 is tough on island going cost to ship one is is close to $200
Pm me if your intrested in one.  I have a excellent condtion one ill part with for a fair price.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 15, 2013, 05:17:44 PM
I've purchased 3 Mosins from dealers on Gun Broker (1 x 91/30 and 2 x M44), and 1 Mosin 91/30 From Buds Gun Shop. 

I paid the least for Bud's Mosin, and I could not be any more pleased.  Total cost with shipping and FFL was $190. 

If you pay less than $200 in this market, it's either a lucky find, or condition is nowhere close to "excellent".  Of course, it could be more of a rare collectable, in which case condition is trumped by rarity.  Some rare Mosins can bring thousands from the right buyer.  As for refinishing a pre-war rifle, you may want to think twice.  Many owners who try to repair and improve a Mosin think they are "restoring" it.  They are not.  Restoring means to put the item back to it's original condition.  Most try to improve on that condition and wind up ruining whatever historical or authenticity attraction it once had.  Make sure the rifle you receive is NOT rare, unique, or in high demand before making modifications or improvements.  You'll be glad you did!

My recommendation is advertise on all the local gun boards you can find.  I believe there are many Mosins in people's safes they either bought cheap a long time ago or inherited.  They might be willing to sell for cheap since they have little to no money invested.

Success is based on timing.  If you aren't lucky enough to find one locally, then I think online sources are a safe bet.  Based on my experience, if you pay about $150-165 before FFL, you can get an excellent re-arenaled rifle in almost-like-new refurbished condition.  Just be alert and read the fine print.  Ask for pics if you can, and take advantage of places with low-risk guarantees, like Bud's.

One other tip.  If you think you might buy more than one 50-yr-old firearm, go ahead and apply for your C&R license.  What you save in FFL fees can pay for the license several times over.  Plus, you can have the rifle shipped directly to you!  Don't wait to apply.  Do it today!  The money you save will be your own! :)

Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: FATMANWA on May 15, 2013, 07:03:19 PM
I have actually thought about applying for one, but just started looking into it. Wondering how it would work when I transfer off island? It seems like it is not a business license that stays in one location but more like a drivers license that travels with you, correct? I definitely would not refurbish a prewar one, those could be battle scars! And I would look up all the info I could on it. Found some good stuff at that 7.62......net site. Can't remember the full name.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 15, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
You have tp notify the atf that you moved so they can update
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: FATMANWA on May 19, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
Went to a few store this weekend. Found some hex's on consignment at x-ring, $400. To high for me, but I did find a auction on gun broker for a wx-48. I guess it is a polish training rifle that is .22 Cal. Only at $70, looked pretty cool.
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 19, 2013, 09:58:27 PM
Hex receivers in stock for 189.99 on Southern Ohio Guns :

http://www.southernohiogun.com/longguns-2/surplus-longguns/russian-mn91-30-hex-receiver-762x54-1.html (http://www.southernohiogun.com/longguns-2/surplus-longguns/russian-mn91-30-hex-receiver-762x54-1.html)

Junk thing about SOG need your ffl to order from them.  Plus shpping is $70-$100 wait for aim or use buds
What's the link for the polish trainer?  I've been looking at a romanian trainer but that comes about $250 shipped
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 19, 2013, 10:59:40 PM
Last time I checked Aim shipping for a rifle was $70 to hawaii as well but that could be via UPS or Fedex, they may offer USPS for less. Buds is always $22 or $23 insured to Hawaii via UPS.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: FATMANWA on May 20, 2013, 06:43:39 AM
Here is a link l: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=342706700 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=342706700) hopefully it works as I am in my phone. Another one posted at gun broker starting at $399.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 20, 2013, 08:14:45 AM
Last time I checked Aim shipping for a rifle was $70 to hawaii as well but that could be via UPS or Fedex, they may offer USPS for less. Buds is always $22 or $23 insured to Hawaii via UPS.

You might try calling AIM when ordering there.  I read something that they can change the UPS shipping to USPS, making shipping about $45 to Hawaii.  But you do have to suck it up and deal with a live human!!   :shake:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 20, 2013, 06:49:33 PM
You might try calling AIM when ordering there.  I read something that they can change the UPS shipping to USPS, making shipping about $45 to Hawaii.  But you do have to suck it up and deal with a live human!!   :shake:

If they answer the phone.  :rofl: I think I'll stick with Buds for most of my online purchases, since I've gotten great service whether it be from someone over the phone or via email during the period when they couldn't answer most of their calls due to sheer volume. Not to mention the awesome deal that is their shipping prices.  :shaka:
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 22, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
Anyone have an extra Mosin interruptor/ejector lying around?
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 24, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
Anyone have an extra Mosin interruptor/ejector lying around?

https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=187&idcategory=17 (https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=187&idcategory=17)

Flat rate shipping $6.95 when I started checkout process.
Parts:  $10.00

Interrupter, spring, and screw set.

I also see SOLD items on eBay, GunBroker, etc.  Timing is important on those, but might get one for a couple bucks.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 24, 2013, 09:37:39 PM
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=187&idcategory=17 (https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=187&idcategory=17)

Flat rate shipping $6.95 when I started checkout process.
Parts:  $10.00

Interrupter, spring, and screw set.

I also see SOLD items on eBay, GunBroker, etc.  Timing is important on those, but might get one for a couple bucks.

Hope that helps.
Thanks moosed
Yeah, found liberty the other day just seeing if there's any local first. After taking his 53 apart it looks like its actually the mag spring not coming up far enough, its sitting just below the interrupter when unloaded instead of just above.
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 28, 2013, 01:02:06 AM
Bud's has some interesting pricing
Excellent 91/30s (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_756/products_id/411540200/Rifles/Century+International+Arms+Inc.) for $150
Very Good 91/30s (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_756/products_id/411540201/Rifles/Century+International+Arms+Inc.) for $180...... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HEX receiver 91/30s (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_756/products_id/411553240/Rifles/Century+International+Arms+Inc.) for $170
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: fstbckgt on May 28, 2013, 02:29:19 AM
Seems like the first round may be nosing down instead of feeding correctly. Could be rimlock preventing it from loading properly, the rounds have to be loaded into the stripper correctly with the rims in the correct position. This can be tricky if you are loading the stripper clips by hand.
Loading a Mosin Nagant with a stripper clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z7n54xJ_Q8#)

Here are some other forum threads you can read that may help if the stripper clip or rimlock is not the problem.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487066 (http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487066)
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-rifles-shotgun-discussion/22082-mosin-nagent-91-30-problem-w-loading.html (http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-rifles-shotgun-discussion/22082-mosin-nagent-91-30-problem-w-loading.html)
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-421688.html (http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-421688.html)
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-529230.html (http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-529230.html)


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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on May 28, 2013, 07:29:11 AM
Tried following the advice in the vid and still no luck  :(

Was fooling around with it and it seems that it might be the interrupter. Whenever I use the stripper clip, it seems that the bolt just hits the rim of the cartridge and the round refuses to move forward. But when I load each round by hand, it works flawlessly.

Aside from that, I have no idea.  ???

I've read that this maybe a stripper clip issues.  The consensus came out that only the orginal russian surpluss clips work well not modern made ones.  Look for "izv" triangle marked clips
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on May 28, 2013, 07:50:19 PM
The clips actually came with rounds attached from  7.62x54R spam cans that I purchased. They 'sometimes' work fine in my Russians, but refuse to work in the Type 53.

Guess i'll have to stick with hand loading each round.  :wacko:

Of course, I could alway shell out the $350+ for the new stock + mags, but still debating on that one.

This may help.  When loading by hand , notice you more than likely start the round slightly forward of the previously loaded round.  That has the effect of keeping the last-loaded round's rim in front of the previous round's (front being toward the muzzle).  When you cycle the bolt, the top round will always start forward of the one beneath it.  Reversing the rim order causes the lower round's rim to block the round being fed into the chamber.

Now, look at how you load a clip.  The rounds need to be inserted into the clip rim over rim.  The rim on one end is under the next.  The rim on the other end is on top of the next.  The rims in between should follow the same pattern of under or over from either direction.  Once the clip is full, the rounds will "lean" one direction due to the rims on the adjacent rounds lifting up the edge of one other adjacent round.  Look for the round on the end that is on top of the net rim.  That round goes in last, and it should be pointing upward when the clip is in the loading slot on the rifle.  All rounds except the bottom one should lean upward when loading, as the rims should be from bottom up, rear-most rim to forward-most rim.

It took some observation to figure that out.  As you said, hand loading works.  Just make the clips do exactly the same thing in terms of rim order.
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on June 15, 2013, 10:58:05 PM
I RECEIVED MY FFL IN THE MAIL TODAY!  I'm officially registered with the BATF as a Federal Firearms Licensee for Curios and Relics!  For those curious and interested in applying, the cost was $30 to the ATF (I paid by Credit Card), with 2 copies of the application needing to be completed and mailed.  One goes to the ATF with the check/credit card info, and one to the local PD (so they can alert the ATF in the event they feel you should be denied for some reason). 

- Monday, May 20:  mailed the applications
- Saturday, May 25:  credit card was charged $30 fee
- Saturday, June 15.  license arrived in the mail

License expires July 1, 2016 (3 years for those with public education  >:D )

Just a day shy of four weeks from start to finish.  Now I can start looking on Gun Broker, AIM Surplus, and Bud's Gun Shop again!!  I was having to hold myself back until my license arrived!  Now I can ship firearms that qualify to and from my house directly and avoid the LGS FFL fees!

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Post by: Q on June 16, 2013, 12:27:39 AM
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: moosed on June 16, 2013, 10:27:41 PM
AMAZING FEELING, Isn't it?!  :geekdanc:

Aside from AIM, check out Classic Firearms, Southern Ohio Guns and J&G; but I'm sure you already knew that, so just a refresher  :thumbsup:

P.S. Might want to get your Mosin's while you can; according the the importer I deal with, the next shipment's prices are going to rise dramatically, and increase with each shipment thereafter.

The Russians/Ukrainians have stopped sending the accessory kits as well; only the bayonets  :'(

Thanks for the tip!  Too bad my safe isn't  marked "Mosin Parking Only!"  My Mosins have to share space with other "tenants!" leaving little space for new acquisitions ...   :'(
Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on June 17, 2013, 07:41:46 PM
Hey check this video. The mosin is seeing new life in Syria making its service life from 1894- present
http://www.guns.com/2013/06/17/mosin-nagants-still-in-service-in-syria-video/ (http://www.guns.com/2013/06/17/mosin-nagants-still-in-service-in-syria-video/)
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Post by: Q on June 17, 2013, 08:05:36 PM
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Title: Re: mosin shooter check in
Post by: FATMANWA on June 23, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
Anybody watching life below zero on natgeo? One of the people on the show bought a mosin pu, and it was super accurate.