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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rdi on April 27, 2013, 06:21:07 PM
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Was wondering if anybody had some info on dis question was plannin a Vegas trip n jus in case I see something nice I wanted to kno if I would even able to purchase a rifle?? Mahalo'z :shaka:
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Just drive out of Henderson county. Its cash and carry. In vegas if I'm not mistaken long rifle is cash and carry, pistol is 24 hr hold
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Clark county aka las Vegas has no long gun permit requirement, only pistol registration. And yes, when buying a pistol, Henderson is where to go. Although I'm unsure if the blue card affects whether you can cash and carry.
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Just drive out of Henderson county. Its cash and carry. In vegas if I'm not mistaken long rifle is cash and carry, pistol is 24 hr hold
Thanx fo da info Bigkahuna808 :shaka:
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Clark county aka las Vegas has no long gun permit requirement, only pistol registration. And yes, when buying a pistol, Henderson is where to go. Although I'm unsure if the blue card affects whether you can cash and carry.
Thanx fo da info roadster99 but not to sure wat da blue card is??
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The blue card is a card that is issued to you when you register your pistols. It basically states you are of legal status to own and open carry your pistols. Many feel it is unconstitutional, but regardless, it is needed if you own and plan to purchase/add to your pistol collection. Most times, when wanting to purchase a pistol, you just show your blue card and you're all g.
Basically if you have your blue card, it implies you already own a pistol, which means you're legal. No waiting period needed.
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dont you need a state ID and/or proof of residency if you wanna buy anything in vegas? Last time I was there they wouldn't even sell me mags.
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Great question!! I have to remember to doing some shopping up there next time.
Now I just have to wonder what the Bellagio's and California's policy on bringing AK-47's into their hotels lol.
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The blue card is a card that is issued to you when you register your pistols. It basically states you are of legal status to own and open carry your pistols. Many feel it is unconstitutional, but regardless, it is needed if you own and plan to purchase/add to your pistol collection. Most times, when wanting to purchase a pistol, you just show your blue card and you're all g.
Basically if you have your blue card, it implies you already own a pistol, which means you're legal. No waiting period needed.
Thanx so much on da info I do not own any pistols YET so I had no clue of a blue card issued wen ya get ur pistol permit. Sry I'm a newbie to da sport so please bare wit my not so bright questions. :shaka:
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Isn't the blue card the arizona concealed carry permit?
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Isn't the blue card the arizona concealed carry permit?
No, Arizona does not require a permit for concealed carry.
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dont you need a state ID and/or proof of residency if you wanna buy anything in vegas? Last time I was there they wouldn't even sell me mags.
What kind of mags were you trying to buy? My friend just came back and he bought several glock mags. I mean parts kit ;)
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No, Arizona does not require a permit for concealed carry.
Correct!! :thumbsup:
Arizona is now a Constitutional Carry state. They still issue permits in case you desire the training classes, or if you want the permit for reciprocity in other states. If I counted correctly, it looks like 27 other states accept the AZ CCW Permit.
http://www.azdps.gov/Links/ARS/?l=13/03112.htm (http://www.azdps.gov/Links/ARS/?l=13/03112.htm)
UPDATE: According to this site, 30 states honor AZ CCW permits regardless of your state of residence. If you're an AZ resident, then the total is 36.
http://www.usacarry.com/arizona_concealed_carry_permit_information.html#arizona_concealed_carry_map (http://www.usacarry.com/arizona_concealed_carry_permit_information.html#arizona_concealed_carry_map)
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dont you need a state ID and/or proof of residency if you wanna buy anything in vegas? Last time I was there they wouldn't even sell me mags.
Re: rifles don't know about pistol...
I agree, I believe you have to be a resident of Nevada/LV, when I went to Bass Pro shop last time I was in Vegas, the clerk said you have to be a resident to buy, but he was cool enough to talk story and let us handle a few rifles.
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Friend in LV who has his ffl license could not sell me a rifle in person (me walking out of the store with the rifle in my name) because I was not a resident of any bordering state of Nevada, California being the exception. He did state he could sell the rifle to a resident of the state of Nevada and or bordering state of Nevada other then California and if that resident decided to gift it to me, that was up to the purchaser. Also I can purchase a rifle up there and have it transferred to Hawaii via ffl. Hope this helps...
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Friend in LV who has his ffl license could not sell me a rifle in person (me walking out of the store with the rifle in my name) because I was not a resident of any bordering state of Nevada, California being the exception. He did state he could sell the rifle to a resident of the state of Nevada and or bordering state of Nevada other then California and if that resident decided to gift it to me, that was up to the purchaser. Also I can purchase a rifle up there and have it transferred to Hawaii via ffl. Hope this helps...
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Aloha, sa594
Thanx fo da info yes I did my research n yes I can purchase a rifle not being a res but will have to ship via ffl holder
Mahaloz fo ur time :shaka:
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What about pistols? when purchasing out of state and shipping it through FFL. would I still need a pistol permit-affidavit when registering the firearm?
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What about pistols? when purchasing out of state and shipping it through FFL. would I still need a pistol permit-affidavit when registering the firearm?
yes
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What about pistols? when purchasing out of state and shipping it through FFL. would I still need a pistol permit-affidavit when registering the firearm?
Yes :shaka:
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Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??
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Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??
Shipping is based on the service and carrier you choose. FFL fees are just for the transferring the firearm between buyer and seller. When a seller in, say, Virginia, ships a rifle to Hawaii, it costs the same to any gun shop on Oahu. The gun shop's FFL fees vary, however. You pay for shipping plus FFL fee.
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Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??
Shipping will be variable. The FFL fee should be around $50.00 per shop.
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Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??
You can also bring the weapons back on Hawaiian Airlines. Listed is their website's information concerning their transport:
http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/AboutUs/Pages/CarriageRuleItem.aspx?cr=195 (http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/AboutUs/Pages/CarriageRuleItem.aspx?cr=195)
Shooting Equipment (Sporting Firearms)
Items of shooting equipment will be accepted only as checked baggage subject to the conditions and charges specified below. For the purpose of this provision one item of shooting equipment is defined as (1) one bag and may include up to but not more than, 5kg (11 lbs) of ammunition. Normal baggage size and weight limits apply.
Conditions of Acceptance
Firearms must be unloaded and placed in a suitable container. Firearms must be packed in (1) a manufacturer's crush-proof type container, manufactured specifically for the firearm, or (2) a hard case. Baggage containing handguns must be locked with a key or lock combination in possession of the passenger only, and the bag must be of hard side type. Baggage containing firearms will be transported in an area, other than the cockpit, that is inaccessible to passengers.
Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
For transportation to/from locations outside of the United States acceptance requirements of the host government apply and must be verified upon acceptance. The passenger shall comply with all laws, regulations, orders, demands, or travel requirements of countries to be flown from, into, or over, and with all rules, regulations, and instructions of carrier. Carrier shall not be liable for any aid or information given by any agent or employee of carrier to any passenger in connection with obtaining necessary documents or complying with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions, whether given orally, in writing, or otherwise, or for the consequences to any passenger resulting from his failure to obtain such documents or to comply with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions.
Charges
When in excess, firearms will be subject to normal excess baggage charges.
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You can also bring the weapons back on Hawaiian Airlines. Listed is their website's information concerning their transport:
http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/AboutUs/Pages/CarriageRuleItem.aspx?cr=195 (http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/AboutUs/Pages/CarriageRuleItem.aspx?cr=195)
Shooting Equipment (Sporting Firearms)
Items of shooting equipment will be accepted only as checked baggage subject to the conditions and charges specified below. For the purpose of this provision one item of shooting equipment is defined as (1) one bag and may include up to but not more than, 5kg (11 lbs) of ammunition. Normal baggage size and weight limits apply.
Conditions of Acceptance
Firearms must be unloaded and placed in a suitable container. Firearms must be packed in (1) a manufacturer's crush-proof type container, manufactured specifically for the firearm, or (2) a hard case. Baggage containing handguns must be locked with a key or lock combination in possession of the passenger only, and the bag must be of hard side type. Baggage containing firearms will be transported in an area, other than the cockpit, that is inaccessible to passengers.
Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
For transportation to/from locations outside of the United States acceptance requirements of the host government apply and must be verified upon acceptance. The passenger shall comply with all laws, regulations, orders, demands, or travel requirements of countries to be flown from, into, or over, and with all rules, regulations, and instructions of carrier. Carrier shall not be liable for any aid or information given by any agent or employee of carrier to any passenger in connection with obtaining necessary documents or complying with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions, whether given orally, in writing, or otherwise, or for the consequences to any passenger resulting from his failure to obtain such documents or to comply with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions.
Charges
When in excess, firearms will be subject to normal excess baggage charges.
Thanx paul96734
Fo all da info hopefully I can find something crossin my fingers..
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Shipping is based on the service and carrier you choose. FFL fees are just for the transferring the firearm between buyer and seller. When a seller in, say, Virginia, ships a rifle to Hawaii, it costs the same to any gun shop on Oahu. The gun shop's FFL fees vary, however. You pay for shipping plus FFL fee.
Thanx Moosed
Fo da info crossin my fingers dat I can find something up dem much mahalo'z :shaka:
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Was wondering if anybody had some info on dis question was plannin a Vegas trip n jus in case I see something nice I wanted to kno if I would even able to purchase a rifle?? Mahalo'z :shaka:
You are by law allowed to purchase long guns or shotguns from a Nevada FFL dealer as a Nevada non-resident and take possession of that firearm immediately after purchase. Bill ab217 went into effect July 1, 2011 and repeals the provisions of NRS 597.910
http://openstates.org/nv/bills/76/AB217/documents/NVD00005350/ (http://openstates.org/nv/bills/76/AB217/documents/NVD00005350/) link to Bill ab217
This is only for the sale of long guns and not for handguns also the long gun purchased by the non-resident has to be legal in the purchasers home state.
That being said - The local gun shops will do whatever they want because most don't know the law has been changed since July 01, 2011. Bass Pro wont sell to non-residents but The Gun Store will.
i'm not a Lawyer but I stayed at Holiday Inn once :shaka:
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The out of state resident laws apply to residents of only contiguous states to Nevada
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So is it worth the drive to arizona? Is it cash and carry for no residents?
I assume I can still buy at gun shows and pawn shops?
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The out of state resident laws apply to residents of only contiguous states to Nevada
Click the link in my post above - the law was changed on July 01, 2011. You don't have to be a resident from contiguous state to purchase a long gun in Nevada.
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Click the link in my post above - the law was changed on July 01, 2011. You don't have to be a resident from contiguous state to purchase a long gun in Nevada.
Good to know
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If I read it correctly, there has to be an FFL in the picture. Either the seller or the buyer has to be a licensed dealer. According to my interpretation, you can travel to Nevada, buy a rifle from an FFL holder there, and then fly back to Hawaii with it -- as long as the sale complies with Hawaii law as well. Once you return, you should have to take it to the police department and register it as an out-of-state purchased rifle or shotgun. There should be no need to ship the firearm to an FFL since ownership will have already been transferred to you.
I'm not a lawyer nor an FFL holder, so take this as a layman's reading of the law in Nevada:
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf)
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Hmm, very helpful info. I'm going to Vegas next month and want to see if the prices are better there! :geekdanc:
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If I read it correctly, there has to be an FFL in the picture. Either the seller or the buyer has to be a licensed dealer. According to my interpretation, you can travel to Nevada, buy a rifle from an FFL holder there, and then fly back to Hawaii with it -- as long as the sale complies with Hawaii law as well. Once you return, you should have to take it to the police department and register it as an out-of-state purchased rifle or shotgun. There should be no need to ship the firearm to an FFL since ownership will have already been transferred to you.
I'm not a lawyer nor an FFL holder, so take this as a layman's reading of the law in Nevada:
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf)
Yup - that's it, as long as the seller has an ffl you can take possession of the long gun after purchase. The only thing is that many of the gun stores up there do not know about the revision to law and they will tell you that they can't sell to you.
Another thing to think about is getting a part time resident Nevada ID esepesially for people who travel to las Vegas alot which is most of Hawaii. Also if you have property in Vegas or relatives that will let you use their address to get a part time resident ID. Once you get that you can buy whatever you want.
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If I read it correctly, there has to be an FFL in the picture. Either the seller or the buyer has to be a licensed dealer. According to my interpretation, you can travel to Nevada, buy a rifle from an FFL holder there, and then fly back to Hawaii with it -- as long as the sale complies with Hawaii law as well. Once you return, you should have to take it to the police department and register it as an out-of-state purchased rifle or shotgun. There should be no need to ship the firearm to an FFL since ownership will have already been transferred to you.
I'm not a lawyer nor an FFL holder, so take this as a layman's reading of the law in Nevada:
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf)
Thanx Moosed fo all da info I will look into it :shaka:
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Hmm, very helpful info. I'm going to Vegas next month and want to see if the prices are better there! :geekdanc:
DeejayTThawaii
I was wonderin da same thing Hmmmm?? Lmk :shaka:
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Yup - that's it, as long as the seller has an ffl you can take possession of the long gun after purchase. The only thing is that many of the gun stores up there do not know about the revision to law and they will tell you that they can't sell to you.
Another thing to think about is getting a part time resident Nevada ID esepesially for people who travel to las Vegas alot which is most of Hawaii. Also if you have property in Vegas or relatives that will let you use their address to get a part time resident ID. Once you get that you can buy whatever you want.
Jonjon thanx fo da info I will look into da part time resident card also. :shaka:
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597.910 Sales of rifles and shotguns to residents of Nevada and contiguous states in accordance with federal law.
1. Residents of the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in states contiguous to Nevada if:
(a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
regulation promulgated thereunder.
(b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such a purchase in Nevada and in the state where the purchase is
made.
2. Residents of a state contiguous to the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in Nevada if:
(a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
regulation promulgated thereunder.
(b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such purchase in Nevada and in the state where such persons reside.
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597.910 Sales of rifles and shotguns to residents of Nevada and contiguous states in accordance with federal law.
1. Residents of the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in states contiguous to Nevada if:
(a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
regulation promulgated thereunder.
(b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such a purchase in Nevada and in the state where the purchase is
made.
2. Residents of a state contiguous to the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in Nevada if:
(a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
regulation promulgated thereunder.
(b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such purchase in Nevada and in the state where such persons reside.
That's the OLD LAW. The NEW LAW repeals all of the "Contiguous States" mumbo jumbo:
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I cant find the corrected document in the .gov sites..
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I cant find the corrected document in the .gov sites..
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf
Or you can go to the 100% reliable "Bible" of the Interweb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada)
Scroll to the bottom before the biblio. :shaka: