Brother, the Democrats took over in 1954 with the help, no the push of the unions  and have never looked back.
They have become the Plantation Oligarchy that they ran off.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

You did vote in the last election did you not?
We have nobody to blame for this but ourselves

Definitely voted, have never voted for any of the incumbents, especialy none of the ones drafting this legislation

Anyone notice if a copy of the state or national constitution is posted in legislators offices?  I was thinking of printing and framing some for them when I go visit em.

I dont even think these people care, ever notice how they treat us like slaves?
Hawaii state constitution, Article 1, section 17


Just an FYI to any politicians reading this
To infringe= to interfere with or disregard.

I need them because the tyrants minions have them,
2A
Learn it,
Constitution, know it,
UPHOLD IT WHEN THE ONES WHO SWORE THE OATH DONT
Fuck it, we all gotta die some day,

I wish these jokers would read and understand our current laws before cooking up half baked stuff like this..

It mentions machine guns... Last time I checked, it's been illegal to own one for quite some time.

gotta read the definitions, almost any semi auto AR will be illegal

there are a lot more like minded people than you realize.  just be careful who you tell what to.    read the patriot and one second after and the glenn tate series.   lots of good info there.   

when you probe you can tell who is like minded,  pretend you are playing poker and don't show all your cards at once.   

there are a lot more of us out there then you know.

Patriots was good, read all 3 books in JWRs series, been wanting to read Brackens books,
Mahalo

Isnt it a sad state of affairs when we need to be afraid of the words we use?

when the first ammendment really means nothing? freedom of speech my ass,

Im just saying, I guess this is why nobody wants to stand up and be counted as opposed to what is being shoved in our face, any diet of any sort as relating to firearms is a breech of the second amendment.
But yea, I guess your right that were pretty much screwed no matter what, no way to vote the bastards out, and they will just make their own rules up to what suits them, and dont dare say anything opposed to them or you are a nutjob terrorist, witch I know is not true, and the people I work with and supply with produce, or am friends with know is not true,,
Anyway
It is a sad state indeed that we need to live in fear of our own government,
but yes, I get it,,,
and yes I am concerned,, I have no desire to get my ass thrown in the popoki,

but this is why I feel it may be necessary to at least try and come together,

not again I say NOT to shoot the place up,

hell we live in Hawaii, that would be pretty stupid, our island home is pretty peaceful for the most part, I say for the most part, anyway,  the main purpose of this posting would be to come together and have a meeting of minds and maybe exchange some knowledge or skills, to in effect build community,

when your neighbors are all liberal and your friends are all older and complacent or afraid to step one iota out of line, how else can someone build a network?

this was my thinking, I dont think any one of us would be on a web forum spouting off about gettin crazy and splitting heads,,, just not a good idea,

but to honestly use the forum as a tool to build comunity and at least the beginnings of outreach to me seems like a good thing. I guess a sandwitch board could work too but even I think that may be a bit much,,,,
ANyways,

Just havent been able to connect with any like minded folks on Maui, everyone is real guarded, perhaps rightly so, perhaps not, I dont know,

so either
CAAAANNN,  or NOOO CAAAANNNN
we giveum

Thank you much!    will keep trying to see if there are any folks going to go to the state building here on Maui,  gun shop I usually frequent the owners are gone so shop is closed, not sure about the others but will try to find out.
Mahalo

It is a trip on how many Hawaii gun owners do not know about this forum.
Spread the word folks about the forum and the event!

You know what is scary to me,,,
is that so many guys are pissed, but scared to voice an opinion in public because they are scared for their family, or whatever,,,
If we are scared of the government if you are speaking your mind and not going along like a good little sheep you need to especially be thinking about your 2A rights,,,
if 1A isnt an option because your scared of getting put on some list, your battle is already lost and you might as well sell your guns to someone who will maybe use them for what they were intended....

I would put it toward one of these,
http://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/OnDemand/Savage/xlg_110ba.jpg

Savage Law Enforcement Series, 110 BA - 338 Lapua

MSRP: $2321

Would make up the diff, well worth it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/645362/sabre-500000-volt-baton-stun-gun-uses-two-9-volt-batteries-not-included-polymer-black

Use one of these!