Hey Folks,

Long time member here. I was stationed in Hawaii 2012-2016, and departed when i separated. I miss the island and the people.

Anyway, currently in Arizona, work full-time but have my FFL. I have fantastic prices on Firearms, Accessories, and even perform Cerakoting.

I sent a message to 2AHawaii, and am hoping to get listed as a vendor here on the forum.

My website is www.2ndisabsolute.com

I am currently offering a deal where you pay $80 a year or $8 a month, and receive firearms at distributor prices. PM me or text/call the number listed on my website for more details. Thanks!

I want to start a petition tomorrow, but it needs lots of signatures to go public.

I met Espero not too long ago, didn't seem like a bad guy. I do find it completely unacceptable that politicians champion legislation they haven't even read. I believe there should be criminal charges for this. If there is ever a lawsuit, I expect him to be held responsible.

 Was he wearing his silly kangol hat? Haha

I am not too concerned. The justice acknowledged the stop as illegal, he just clarified that since the warrant was outstanding, and predated the interaction, that the evidence could be used. I don't look at it as a "stop and give me your ID for no reason" empowerment. Again, the justice acknowledged the stop was illegal but just ruled the evidence could be used. With him acknowledging the stop was illegal, I don't think it gives police a pass to continue illegal interactions.

Dude had meth, walking out of a suspected drug house. I have no sympathy, Phuck em.

On another note, if law abiding citizens (no warrants) are stopped and asked for ID, and have done nothing wrong (again, no warrants) this interaction with the police would be illegal. And a citizen could sue, I believe.

Police cannot search you for no reason, but If you have outstanding warrants, that gives them a reason. He could have refused to show ID, and stated he is exercising his 4th amendment.

Also found this: "In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to reveal their identity when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place."



Please point out the dangers to law abiding citizens, just curious as I might have missed something.

Imagine if one of y'all called Espero out, noting that ruling that invalidates his bill. Wouldn't that be something. Record it and put it on YouTube.

I apologize. I have a few failure to fires. I can give CCI ammo a try.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3644847/Woman-MP-Jo-Cox-stabbed-shot-twice-man-makeshift-gun.html

It is extremely disappointing when it seems like some gun owners don't do a damn thing when liberal lies are spread through the media. Also, when Barrack Muslimsarn'tbad Obama and KIllary Clinton spew their lies about firarms people do nothing. I'm not talking about liberal protest (riots), I mean peaceful petitions/general activism... What gives? When I see bull$hit lies by liberals, I address it, no PC about it.

I am not misrepresenting the figure, that figure is straight from the Governor here in Arizona. Link to PDF:

http://azgovernor.gov/sites/default/files/governor/documents/9thcircuitletter.pdf

What actions can we take at this point? Petition, contacting legislators?