Given what you are writing, your handle here, the animosity toward the BI PC, and asking members to video people at a public meeting so you can "know their faces" ...

Something tells me the word "agenda" is totally inadequate.  More like "vendetta!" 

It's probably a good thing you won't be at the meeting.  I can't see any good coming from the types of questions or taking of video you are asking.

And if you have to  ask a bunch of strangers on a forum to do what you can't find time for, don't come here and rant about how people aren't picking up what you're laying down.

For all we know, you're a government troll, looking to entrap someone with a conspiracy charge of some type.

See? What did I tell you about thread jacking?  What were we talking about again??

 

I appreciate your angle on the situation...but no....I have bigger fish to fry....

Your hypothetical rationality of needing a CCW because of criminal intent demonstrated by the police chief is going to come off very crass and narrow minded. That is not a proper legal precedent either, you are just attempting to make brash jumps between A to B to justify your logic.


Remember, this isn't so much about directly addressing him.  You are speaking and voicing this to the entire group of people listening.  Make sound points without coming off as pompous.  Winning the hearts and minds of people that would traditionally be either on the fence, or against CCW should be your main goal so that there is more public awareness drummed up.

Well finally somebody with two neurons to rub together.....

It ain't personal....but it is for his victims....isn't it ?

My sources are 3 letter Federal Agencies which have taken an interest in him.

Wow.....so I am still not making myself clear.....for legal types the following is purely hypothetical.......

So the Police Chief is a fucking criminal.......

Fucking Criminals are called criminals because they hurt people .....

Hurt People are called victims.......

Victims have a reason for FEAR.....

FEAR is the legal basis for CCW on the Big Island.....

So if the Victims of the Criminal who is the Police Chief applied for CCW, we would have a good news story....a good legal case....precedent .....

Are you people fucking deaf ?

Hypothetically speaking ?

An interesting and purely hypothetical case to consider.

Currently we are denied our rights. In fact, the Chief of the Police sits in judgment of us. He decides at *his* discretion if we are allowed to defend ourselves against criminals.

We are required to justify our "fear".

Well, hypothetically, the Police Chief himself could be a criminal. And hypothetically, one of his victims could apply for a ccw.

And hypothetically, this victim, could justify his or her fear with, " I need a carry permit because of people like you, Mr. Police Chief".

Hypothetically.

Hawaiʻi Police Department
Office of the Chief
Chief Harry S. Kubojiri
Phone: 961-2244


Media Release (update)

The Hawaiʻi Police Department will make an “active shooter” presentation at an evening meeting in Waimea next week.

The meeting will take place 5-6:30 p.m. on Wednesday (July 2) at the Waimea Community Center located at 65-1260 Kawaihae Road.

The presentation is designed to help individuals increase their survivability should they encounter an active shooter or other type of active violent incident.

Police will provide information on previous incidents of mass violence, recent events, best practices for those caught in such situations, law enforcement’s response, and how to work together as a community toward prevention. They will also provide additional resources for participants so they can continue their education on this topic, followed by a question-and answer segment.

Chief Harry Kubojiri encourages the public to attend. “We hope no tragedy like this ever happens in our community,” he said, “but we want our citizens to know how to best protect themselves if it ever does.”