Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized? (Read 38062 times)

London808

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2016, 10:50:58 AM »
since the wall was bought up, If Trum wins and the wall gets built its easy to get Mexico to pay for it,
Mexicans in america send billions of dollars home via electronic money transfers, All he will do is add a border security tax to transactions going to Mexico.
He could also add tarffis to good crossing the border into the US from Mexico,  With china and outher country's competing with Mexico on the low costs goods market, Mexico could potential lose many more Billions than the wall would cost.
He could also step up deportations of Mexicans illegally in america, returning them to Mexico creating a large population problem for them.
He could also invade mexico and take the whole country over, Mexican Drugs and Drug cartels have killed many more people then 9/11 ever did ( but then agin does mexico have any oil? )

Simple reason to vote Trump over Hillary : Hillary has been in politics for the last 30 years and has achieved NOTHING

Politician is not meant to be a career but is meant to be a privilege used to server and represent WE THE PEOPLE
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troy tanaka

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2016, 02:35:08 PM »
London808 won't work, your Mexican bank transfer tax, all one has to do is reroute it to Canada then to Mexico, or any other country then to Mexico, and if you tax the Mexicans who reroute to any country you going to have to tax Americans to sending money abroad, their went 1/3 your wall.
Companies in America invest in Mexico not the other way around so if you put tariffs on incoming goods then the consumer of America pays for it, the companies in theU.S. Just pass it down to the consumer, their went another1/3 your of your wall.
Sending Mexicans back to Mexico there are over one million easily, spending resources on them you won't have enough money to save that American citizen who needs help, no funding or we fund it and raise the deficit, and china pegged their yuan( which is their money ) to the dollar so their goods comes in from china and we all buy it, example we all shop at Walmart, American company with 90% Chinese goods, go look for yourself, I did and we just supported china, and if we tariff china the cost gets sent to the consumer, now you have no wall. My idea put the military on the border and have them target practice, they do this in scofield, it doesn't cost the consumer for more boarder control, Mexicans want to cross good luck in out running bombs with heavy drugs on you, and for river boarder have the navy seals practice on these drug boats sneaking up on them, Suprise, take their drugs let them go back to Mexico so the cartel can execute them for failing
Sorry got off topic

Rocky

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2016, 05:17:18 PM »
London808 won't work, your Mexican bank transfer tax, all one has to do is reroute it to Canada then to Mexico, or any other country then to Mexico, and if you tax the Mexicans who reroute to any country you going to have to tax Americans to sending money abroad, their went 1/3 your wall.
Companies in America invest in Mexico not the other way around so if you put tariffs on incoming goods then the consumer of America pays for it, the companies in theU.S. Just pass it down to the consumer, their went another1/3 your of your wall.
Sending Mexicans back to Mexico there are over one million easily, spending resources on them you won't have enough money to save that American citizen who needs help, no funding or we fund it and raise the deficit, and china pegged their yuan( which is their money ) to the dollar so their goods comes in from china and we all buy it, example we all shop at Walmart, American company with 90% Chinese goods, go look for yourself, I did and we just supported china, and if we tariff china the cost gets sent to the consumer, now you have no wall. My idea put the military on the border and have them target practice, they do this in scofield, it doesn't cost the consumer for more boarder control, Mexicans want to cross good luck in out running bombs with heavy drugs on you, and for river boarder have the navy seals practice on these drug boats sneaking up on them, Suprise, take their drugs let them go back to Mexico so the cartel can execute them for failing
Sorry got off topic

Troy, I think you do not understand how a tariff works
The tariff would be a tax on goods COMING INTO THE COUNTRY.
There is no cost to the consumer.

Economics 101

Definition of tariff
a :  a schedule of duties imposed by a government on imported or in some countries exported goods

   Say you build a car in the US and it costs $10k in material and labor and you sell the car for $15k
You build the same car in mexico and the material and labor cost you only $5k
If you want to bring the car into the US to sell, you will be "taxed" (a.k.a.tariff)  $6k.
US get's $6k "tariff, car still sells for $15k but now the auto maker makes $1k less !

  So now it's cheaper to make cars in US, which creates jobs, and people get paid and pend money etc....
Happy ending (with or without Viagra  :-*)

As I mentioned earlier,Mexico will pay for the wall  one way or another.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2016, 05:23:02 PM by Rocky »
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troy tanaka

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2016, 08:15:47 PM »
Rocky companies don't have to sale cars for 15 grand the companies can set the price to what ever they want, if they set the price to 6000 dollars in that country and sells the car for 6000 dollars in the U.S. where's the tariff, still cheaper then American made cars. That's why Kia cars are killing American made cars and Chrysler or Chevrolet moving their small car factory to Mexico because bottom line it's cheap to manufacture, Chevrolet set the price cheaper. US still lose jobs and the tariff is less so you build your five feet wall across the US . Remember you can't go throu it you go over it or under it US still lose. But if you put more job in Mexico their not going to come to America their going to stay in Mexico and some may even go back to Mexico, that's how you keep them in mexico give them job we buy products cheaper and America move on to be smarter country with more engineers and scientists while the labor goes to countries that can settle for less labor cost. By the way trump said he'd create job well billy bush just got fired from his.

London808

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2016, 09:17:09 PM »
London808 won't work, your Mexican bank transfer tax, all one has to do is reroute it to Canada then to Mexico, or any other country then to Mexico, and if you tax the Mexicans who reroute to any country you going to have to tax Americans to sending money abroad, their went 1/3 your wall.
Companies in America invest in Mexico not the other way around so if you put tariffs on incoming goods then the consumer of America pays for it, the companies in theU.S. Just pass it down to the consumer, their went another1/3 your of your wall.
Sending Mexicans back to Mexico there are over one million easily, spending resources on them you won't have enough money to save that American citizen who needs help, no funding or we fund it and raise the deficit, and china pegged their yuan( which is their money ) to the dollar so their goods comes in from china and we all buy it, example we all shop at Walmart, American company with 90% Chinese goods, go look for yourself, I did and we just supported china, and if we tariff china the cost gets sent to the consumer, now you have no wall. My idea put the military on the border and have them target practice, they do this in scofield, it doesn't cost the consumer for more boarder control, Mexicans want to cross good luck in out running bombs with heavy drugs on you, and for river boarder have the navy seals practice on these drug boats sneaking up on them, Suprise, take their drugs let them go back to Mexico so the cartel can execute them for failing
Sorry got off topic

To send money to mexico via canada you would need a 3rd party to receive the money and then send it on for you, Most money is sent western union, Why because unlike banks they dont report suspicious transactions. Western union forbids the re-sending of money recived, This is to stop fraud and money laundering and to comply with the laws of the location the money is transferring to and from.

Thats not how Tarifs work, Tarifs are charged on a good entering a country to balance the cost of cheaper production in a foreign country, So if a car costs 10k to make in America and 8k to make in Mexico, America would add a 2k Tariff to it to make the cost of sale the same in America, This is how the system is meant to work and is also what is meant to pay for all federal goverment expenses ( Not wage taxs). Right now because of NAFTA products from mexico have little tarifs on them. By adding these tarifs to products of Mexico they would cause the company's in Mexico to return to the USA or move to country's with lower tariffs, They could also increase the Tarffis beyond market range. Meaning products from mexico would cost 110% more then products made in America or imported from other country's, Essentially shrinking the Mexico export economy vastly more then the billions of dollars needed to build the wall.

Exporting Illegal imigrants who currently drain american resources from welfare and such would save money, Not to mention a vast amount of the money these illgeals earn is sent out of the country to family in mexico so their money is not put back into the american economy anyway. So by sending them home, we save money that is wasted on them. We open up more jobs to Americans (work for welfare programs are becoming more common in America) We dont need to spend a bunch of money deporting them. When an illegal immigrant is found and legal residency is not established, put them on a bus and drop them of on the Mexican border. Not to mention the vast numbers of illegal Mexicans in our prison system, We could save millions a year by deporting them back to mexico.

I do agree about using the military to defend our borders, In reality we dont need a wall, Just clear a 1/2 mile strip on the border and declare it a free fire zone.

|A country without borders is neither safe nor a country.
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troy tanaka

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2016, 09:39:06 PM »
Sorry I meant ford is moving their car manufacturing

eyeeatingfish

Re: Why is it that anyone who supports Trump is criticized?
« Reply #86 on: November 01, 2016, 08:37:57 PM »
Really? You can't think of any reason that someone might not have said or done something at the time but now is saying something? How about a list that will take me about 10 seconds to come up with. I guess to believe there were never any pedophile priests because the complaints came decades later huh?

1. Fear no one will believe them.
What makes them think some one would believe them now ?

Because of Trump's comments saying he gropes women. Because multiple people are making the same claims.

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2. Fear they will be sued, something which Trump is known to do
What makes them think Trump won't sue them now ?

Of course they still could be sued but now since he is a political figure they probably would receive a lot more supporting their defense.

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3. Not worth their time to report it to the police and go to court multiple times.
Their not reporting it to the police and bringing up charges now either.

They might be in a different place in their life. They might have more money, more time, more maturity, etc. And now it is a bigger issue, not just some playboy but the guy wanting to lead the country. Apples and oranges.

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4. Not wanting to be in the public spotlight, something that would be guaranteed if it involved such a famous person
By their own choice, they  are in the spotlight and he's even more famous now !

Again, different circumstances now.

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5. They come out now because they see others come out which gives them more courage and credibility.
So by what courage or support did the first ones come out.

Not sure of the first ones motives so I could only speculate. Courage isn't always instant.

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6. Maybe they just aren't bothered enough to report it as a crime
Then why are they reporting it at all if there is nothing to  be gained (no criminal charges, no penalty, no civil case).

Because now Trump is trying to be our leader and not just some rich playboy.

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7. Fear that their employment may be jeopardized by making accusations
Really, lose your job on account that you reported a sexual assault ?

Sure.

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8. Maybe Trump paid them off.
If that's true, they accepted compensation for wrongs and it's over with.
Makes them even more corrupt to have accepted a payment toi end an issue and then bring it up again !

Breaking legal contract? Yes. Corrupt? No. Again, different circumstances.