The queen has fallen (Read 4902 times)

MassConfusion

The queen has fallen
« on: September 08, 2022, 11:07:49 AM »
At the point of bad taste.
Looks like the ol' lizard has finally kicked the bucket.  Take that as you will.  At least she got to die peacefully in her bed as opposed to on a battlefield.
Now I am not a fan of royalty in general.  Never really understood why people are so preoccupied with royalty and their doings.  This sort of system does not mesh with our sort of governance, that being individualism where every man is his own master.
Just a guess but she will now be held up as a greater person than she was and all of her positive qualities and works will not be put on display for everyone to celebrate.  All the ups with none of the downs?  Commemorative stamps and collectibles; dishes, plated silverware, bobble heads etc.
now, would it be far fetched to see people wailing in the streets now and at her funeral procession something like what you see in N Korea when the great leaders die?  Probably not that bad but we will see.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/queen-elizabeth-live-updates-rcna34377
https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/personalities/queen
https://www.royal.uk/
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changemyoil66

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2022, 11:47:12 AM »
KHON2 this morning mentioned how great of a person she was and that she believed in freedom.  Then on the same channel, they cut to Fox news because they had more coverage.

Fox mentioned the queen was a fan of our constitution. Which I find hard to believe. As they were arresting reporters (1A) in the recent years. Tommy Robbinson if someone wants a specific. He was doing a report on the illegal Muslims who came into England and was told to pull the story or be arrested. He was arrested. This was during the time that all those illegals were entering various European couturiers and Trump was saying that's not good and called a racist/xenophobe.

Then the people arrested for posting on FB about a covid anti-lockdown rally. Delete the event or be arrested.

Englands stop and frisk methods (4A).

So there's that.  And I'll bet she's no fan of the 2A either since England has no gun rights. So exactly what part of our Constitution was she a fan of?  Or maybe they never discussed with her the Bill of Rights section, but instead just the main paragraphs.  Because obviouslly she had no input over the past 70 years of the 1A, 2A, and 4A. Who knows what other amendments England doesn't like.

IDK how their laws work, but I think the Queen or any royal is just a figure head and makes no decisions. Like how a bill goes thru our congress, then to POTUS desk to sign or veto. Bills there go thru Parliment, and IDK if it needs the Queens sig or if she can veto.

Maybe Fox was wrong to make that statement, but them and KHON2's tone was that she fought for freedoms.  IDK what she did prior to the past 5 years, so my above statement is based solely on recent events.  If the statement about the Constitution wasn't made, then there will be no issue as they don't have the same one we have.

There will be a procession as there is when any countries leader or former leader dies or even the pope.  There probably will be people crying, but not N.Korea wailing.

To her credit, she did serve during WW2 as a mechanic.  As it is custom for the royal family to serve. IDK what Charles did, but William and Harry both were actively serving. So they were not in the rear behind a desk. Harry was a coast guard type helicopter rescue pilot. And Harry was an Apache helicopter pilot who was deployed to A-stan and engaged hostile targets. 1 interview, the alarm went of and he had to cut it short and run to his Apache. I'm going to assume this wasn't staged.  IMO he should not have been deployed to A-stan.

groveler

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2022, 01:37:57 PM »
Every death "diminishes me".
I'm not a fan of any monarchy especially a Hawaiian one.
But here in Hawaii we have our "rulers"
established political people that ride rough shod over our rights.
they are no different and in many ways worse than
hereditary kings and queens.
I wish the woman peace and salvation.
 :shaka:

QUIETShooter

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2022, 02:14:17 PM »

There will be a procession as there is when any countries leader or former leader dies or even the pope.  There probably will be people crying, but not N.Korea wailing.


Some people of the UK will genuinely cry, most will show respect and reverence.  But at least not like N.Korea.  Over there, if you don't cry the Korean Gestapo will definitely have a word with you and you'll likely disappear mysteriously in the middle of the night, never to be seen again.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

mrgaf

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2022, 07:21:54 AM »
At the point of bad taste.
Looks like the ol' lizard has finally kicked the bucket.  Take that as you will.  At least she got to die peacefully in her bed as opposed to on a battlefield.
Now I am not a fan of royalty in general.  Never really understood why people are so preoccupied with royalty and their doings.  This sort of system does not mesh with our sort of governance, that being individualism where every man is his own master.
Just a guess but she will now be held up as a greater person than she was and all of her positive qualities and works will not be put on display for everyone to celebrate.  All the ups with none of the downs?  Commemorative stamps and collectibles; dishes, plated silverware, bobble heads etc.
now, would it be far fetched to see people wailing in the streets now and at her funeral procession something like what you see in N Korea when the great leaders die?  Probably not that bad but we will see.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/queen-elizabeth-live-updates-rcna34377
https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/personalities/queen
https://www.royal.uk/

What a south end of a north bound mule……. :grrr:
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oldfart

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2022, 07:47:12 AM »
She was a veteran of WW2 and thus commands a little more respect than many other world leaders.
Here is a pretty good article about her military service....
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/queen-elizabeth-ii-during-world-war-ii?fbclid=IwAR1dFKJNGRmLUgDoZvsbt0cOkhQkZ4tFDF5xoGcNxIO6K2K6T1RdWUbn1Ic
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Jl808

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2022, 11:08:23 AM »
Rest In Peace

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2022, 11:33:46 AM »
After a world leader has passed, especially the very day of passing, is the WRONG TIME to go on a hate-filled tirade against that person.

Let the people who admired and adored her have time to grieve.  Their grief isn't taking anything from you.  However, your comments are directly interfering with their time of mourning.

People often ask if it's "Too soon?" when telling or sharing a defamatory cartoon, joke or opinion about someone who just died.

The day of her death is unquestionably too soon.

She was the Queen of England for 70 years.  Most of us will be lucky to live to 70 AND still have our faculties.

I, too, am not a fan of the obsession many have for the royals.  But, what I was taught was, if it's not hurting anyone else, let people do and say whatever makes them happy.

If criticizing others for their infatuations made me happy, I'd seriously reevaluate my life in general.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2022, 11:38:42 AM »
then theres all the social media tags #queen  that make it not about Queen Elizabeth but about themselves
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2022, 11:58:51 AM »
Rest In Peace


This guy is a little rough.
In his "judgments".
I've always had a problem with judgmental Christians and Jews.
That is best left to God and Jesus.
I like my beer and as long as you don't with fuck me and mine, what ever
else you do is between you, God and Jesus.
Amen.
 :love:.

changemyoil66

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2022, 01:18:11 PM »

I like my beer and as long as you don't with fuck me and mine,


I had a stroke reading this.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2022, 06:55:43 PM »

I like my beer and as long as you don't with fuck me and mine, ...

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2022, 09:42:36 PM »
I don't know why this is getting so much attention in the USA when we fought a war to not be under a monarchy.

Give her a 15 second blurb in the news and that is good enough. Sure she was a nice lady but she was 96, stop acting like it was a tragedy or a surprise.

hvybarrels

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2022, 11:47:27 PM »
She was the last classy world leader. Now all that’s left are gangsters and morons.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

QUIETShooter

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2022, 06:39:53 AM »
She was the last classy world leader. Now all that’s left are gangsters and morons.

Agree.  Also want to add hysterical narcissists.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

mrgaf

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2022, 09:31:29 PM »
Rest In Peace



Fool is a walking fuck stick! :grrr:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

mrgaf

Re: The queen has fallen
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2022, 09:33:13 PM »
I don't know why this is getting so much attention in the USA when we fought a war to not be under a monarchy.

Give her a 15 second blurb in the news and that is good enough. Sure she was a nice lady but she was 96, stop acting like it was a tragedy or a surprise.

Another prime example of a south end of a north bound ass….. >:D
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.