The Bible says that ALL nations will turn against it and Israel will stand alone. But all that goes against it will hurt themselves.  See Zechariah 12. It prophesies the future deliverance of Israel which may be now.

(Zechariah 12:1-6 NLT)
This  message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord : “This message is from the Lord , who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit.  I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah.  On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves. “On that day,” says the Lord , “I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of their enemies.  And the clans of Judah will say to themselves, ‘The people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, their God.’ “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.

Makes me wonder which side the US will be in all this.  I wonder if the US will turn against Israel also, which current events seem to indicate.

Wow interesting, thanks for the response.  That part sounds like a nuke to me!!!

When government buys food for poor people it's socialism. When we buy weapons for other countries to attack their neighbors it's doing God's work. Christian nation that doesn't know the first thing about Christ.

You are right, I don't think the Government should be involved to the extent that it has been in either circumstance.

The Bible says that ALL nations will turn against it and Israel will stand alone. But all that goes against it will hurt themselves.  See Zechariah 12. It prophesies the future deliverance of Israel which may be now.

(Zechariah 12:1-6 NLT)
This  message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord : “This message is from the Lord , who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit.  I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah.  On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves. “On that day,” says the Lord , “I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of their enemies.  And the clans of Judah will say to themselves, ‘The people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, their God.’ “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.

Makes me wonder which side the US will be in all this.  I wonder if the US will turn against Israel also, which current events seem to indicate.

First I'll comment on the videos. I have seen numerous news agencies that either leave out pertinent information or just come right out and lie about whether Israel is defending itself or starting the fighting. By having family over there and some quite close to the fighting they basically take the stance that Israel is defending itself. They are not all over how Israel behaves at times. But they are all adamant that the fighting is always started by someone firing a rocket, mortar or bomb. But they rarely attack the military. They usually attack the innocent civilians. I believe my family, I do not think they would lie to me.

As far as the religious aspect of what we are talking about, you all should know by now I don't believe. But I do feel there is some wisdom that can be derived from the Bible. And your question regarding the U.S. stance in all of this is very telling. We are in a very bad position in all of this. If Israel is attacked to the point that they start losing the war and foreign armies are invading we could be blackmailed into not entering by China and Russia. If we enter anyway we risk being a part of the next world war. Considering the actions of or current administration I would think we would not enter and Israel will use nuclear weapons to defend itself. Which again I believe will bring involvement by other major players which would bring us into the war. If we don't get involved we risk losing Israel. They are our best and truest friend we have IMHO. If we get involved we risk having nuclear weapons used on our homeland by those who want to see us destroyed. Especially those who are friends with Syria and Iran. In all situations that I see except one we lose. The only situation I see as a positive for us is if Israel is able to defend itself without our direct involvement. All of this is JMHO.

Aside from the Biblical stuff, which I believe and agree with, Israel is a lonesome oasis of human rights and freedom in a region of oppression and tyranny.  Not the sort of oppression that various groups whine about in the United States, the actual, stoning-gays-and-mutilating-people, honest to God oppression.  Every other country region fervently believes that their religion demands the extermination of the Jews, yet some moral relativists still manage to find a way to think these terrorists are the good guys.

We don't even need to justify strong support for Israel on religious grounds; by any objective measure, Israel's continued existence is in our national best interest.

I too have family in the region.  Its a war over land. 
Palestinians were removed from the region so that the Jews have a homeland.   The Palestinians are angry cause they were forced out of their country, the Jews are trying to defended what is their land now.  I know this is over simplifying the facts but it's a rough idea.  Its a war of the people against the people.  It's just happens that the Jews have a strong western military system.

Ive been trying to plan a trip there for years but it's not safe to go there.

"The Bible, right on schedule..." 

I hope that your family(ies) remain safe Inspector & Bigkahuna808.

Hamas is a terrorist organization.  Israel is defending its nation against Hamas' attacks.  And, Inspector has a good point regarding Hamas' attacks and Israel's retaliation.  Amazing how the media spins this.   

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I too have family in the region.  Its a war over land. 
Palestinians were removed from the region so that the Jews have a homeland.   The Palestinians are angry cause they were forced out of their country, the Jews are trying to defended what is their land now.  I know this is over simplifying the facts but it's a rough idea.  Its a war of the people against the people.  It's just happens that the Jews have a strong western military system.

Ive been trying to plan a trip there for years but it's not safe to go there.

Big Kahuna I hope your family is somewhere safe. It sucks that no one can get in or out of there easily at this point.

While you are correct that the fighting between Israel and Egypt/Jordan/Syria was over land, I believe there is more to it than that. I believe all of the fighting going on currently is due to religious differences. Let's face it, Hamas does not have an army big enough or sophisticated enough to take and hold any land from Israel. Or even intimidate Israel off its land. All they are doing is setting up rocket launchers inside school grounds and firing rockets at Israel. For what reason? There have not been any incursions or invasions onto Israel land worth mentioning. Currently, Israel has peace agreements and/or cease fire agreements with Egypt/Jordan/Syria. Israel even had a cease fire agreement with the Palestinians in exchange for land that Israel gave back to them. As you can see, that cease fire agreement didn't last very long. Even Yemen, Iraq and Iran have been openly enemies of Israel based on religious differences. They have no borders with Israel. These countries stand to gain nothing as far as land is concerned if Israel is destroyed. The fighting of recent history seems to be more religious differences than having any chance whatsoever to gain any land back from Israel. JMHO 

Use the New Testament when you want people to give you their stuff willingly. If that doesn't work use the Old Testament as a justification to kill them and take whatever you want.

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Use the New Testament when you want people to give you their stuff willingly. If that doesn't work use the Old Testament as a justification to kill them and take whatever you want.

 

Do you think Israel will ever have their own version of Thanksgiving where they stuff themselves full of hummus and goat and watch their football teams Mohammeds and Jihadis vie for the playoffs? I kinda doubt it.

I'm just saying the Muslims are already taking over Europe and Russia just by immigration and breeding alone. Lord knows our govt has tried bombing, shooting, poison gas, radiation, making them fight each other. It's not like the old days where you could just release some smallpox and be done with it.

Use the New Testament when you want people to give you their stuff willingly. If that doesn't work use the Old Testament as a justification to kill them and take whatever you want.

Thats actually correct! Satan knows the power of the words in both the old and new testament....
Satan knows the Bible as well.... Thats why we ask God to reveal the words of the Bible to us before we open it.....
Thats one of the countless ways Satan tries to deceive people..... Just gotta ask God to stay focused everyday.....

Kinda like how in The Book of Eli, Carnegie was trying to get the Bible from Eli, because he knew the power of the words in it......