Israel vs Hamas (Read 16081 times)

roadster99

Israel vs Hamas
« on: November 15, 2012, 06:48:06 PM »
I had mentioned in an earlier post that I had "likely" made my last post.  Subsequently, I have been urged via PM to involve myself in the community.  Whether you agree or not, I figured I'd post something.  I found this particularly interesting.  Live webcast/updates via Reuters on the Conflict along the Gaza Strip.

Check it out:

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Conflict_on_the_Gaza_Strip

new guy

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 07:04:25 PM »
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hnl.flyboy

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 07:08:55 PM »
Oh dear...
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Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 08:16:13 PM »
The problems escalate.... :(

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Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 11:42:07 PM »
Its been bad before for a long time, but in the last 30 days shtf. With use of heavy artillery and rockets.  Used to be small arms conflicts and rpg attacks.  This civil war has been going on forever.

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 12:46:16 AM »
Israel has some hot women for sure, but seriously they have to fight their own wars. I hate paying taxes that go to some country that can't take care of their own s#!t. If you can't get along with your neighbors then move out of the neighborhood.
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roadster99

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 11:31:17 AM »
I hate paying taxes that go to some country that can't take care of their own s#!t.

Do you dislike tax-payer foreign aid to countries such as Pakistan and Egypt?  What about the war torn countries of Afghanistan and Iraq?

Take a look at this interesting infographic:

http://foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx

How many of those countries, in your words, "can't take care of their own s#it?"  All, none or some?

I ask the question only because if you're questioning the rationale of giving foreign aid to Israel, our only true ally in that region, you must question the foreign aid being given to every single country on that list.

Inspector

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 01:21:22 PM »
Roadster99, I want everyone to realize that heavybarrels is a troll and is only saying what he says to start shit and tries to bring out the emotions in people. So please don't answer this troll. Everyone knows that Israel doesn't start these attacks nor do they cause them. They have every right to defend themselves. They are also the only ally we have that we have never sent in troops to help or defend their interests. You cannot say that for any other ally we have. Being that they are the only true friend we have in the region we need to help them any way we can to survive.

If Canada and Mexico were to continue to attack us with rockets would we just pack up and leave because we can't get along with them?  :wtf: 

Unfortunately, with this last batch of rockets being fired on Israel it is obvious that the rockets are now larger and more powerful than the last round of rockets. Including having a much longer range. They are now hitting within 13 miles of Jerusalem. And this means my family that lives there is now within range of these rockets. They have no car and use public transportation for their daily lives. They cannot leave the country without a car and the airport is currently shut down stranding all visitors and anyone wanting to leave. My whole family is terrified of the possibilities. I spoke to one family member today on the mainland and it is all she can do to keep it together.

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new guy

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 01:26:40 PM »
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Inspector

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 01:50:12 PM »
Shoot man, sometimes I wake up thinking that our own country doesn't seem to be able to take care of its own shit!

Wow. Best wishes to your fam, Inspector. Hope they remain out of harm's way!
Thanks New Guy. It helps that we can still Skype with them.
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hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 03:22:59 PM »
So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a troll? Sorry to hear about your family but they are clearly the aggressor state and if by our only 'friend' you mean a convenient place to stage our military when pillaging the Middle East for resources and install puppet governments under the guise of defending human rights then we could probably get away with losing a friend or two. Don't know if you noticed but we have this problem of being totally broke as a nation and sooner or later the collection agencies are going to come calling.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Heavies

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 03:59:18 PM »
So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a troll? Sorry to hear about your family but they are clearly the aggressor state and if by our only 'friend' you mean a convenient place to stage our military when pillaging the Middle East for resources and install puppet governments under the guise of defending human rights then we could probably get away with losing a friend or two. Don't know if you noticed but we have this problem of being totally broke as a nation and sooner or later the collection agencies are going to come calling.

It not just the disagreement.  You are a racist by your own admission, you give yourself and gun owners a bad name.  Your type is what the antis feed off of to strip our rights.   If we pillage the mid east so much why the hell is gas so expensive?  Where is all the oil that Iraq war was supposed to be about?  Why do we give billons to the countries in that area to help humanitarian aide? Get real!  Israel is attacked from all fronts. They are right to defend their nation.

Go have your 'white guy night' and spew that bullshit overthere! :grrr:

Inspector

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 04:19:28 PM »
So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a troll? Sorry to hear about your family but they are clearly the aggressor state and if by our only 'friend' you mean a convenient place to stage our military when pillaging the Middle East for resources and install puppet governments under the guise of defending human rights then we could probably get away with losing a friend or two. Don't know if you noticed but we have this problem of being totally broke as a nation and sooner or later the collection agencies are going to come calling.
Internet Trolling = a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Go back and read what you posted. It fits the definition of trolling to a tee. Considering you admitted to me in another exchange on this forum that you were doing just this why would I think any differently now in this post?

Go troll somewhere else where you are not outed and you can get the response you are looking for.
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ren

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012, 05:16:31 PM »
Hamas is an Iranian proxy that continues to tease the tiger in the cage by sticking its fingers in between the cage bars. Then when it bites, Hamas will cry foul. The tiger has a long reach, sharp claws and teeth.
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hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2012, 07:05:07 PM »
Internet Trolling = a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

The difference, my friend, is that I have a point and you don't like it so you want to try censorship instead of looking down to notice the cracks in the foundation of your rock-solid world view.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2012, 07:08:49 PM »
Hamas is an Iranian proxy that continues to tease the tiger in the cage by sticking its fingers in between the cage bars. Then when it bites, Hamas will cry foul. The tiger has a long reach, sharp claws and teeth.

The tiger is full of hubris, and those claws only work as long as the empire lasts. Which of course empires never do.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

BananaClip

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 01:12:02 AM »
Spiritual Warfare!
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Kevin

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2012, 07:02:00 AM »
It seems a lot of international media is trying to make Israel look really bad. To me, any country has the right to defend their people from international or domestic threats. Warning people to evacuate before they strike a certain building seems pretty reasonable to me in order to try and keep civilian casualties as low as possible. Also the second video shows how surgical the Israel military is in taking out the target. They are shooting missiles from miles away and have a direct hit. I can't even shoot the 10 ring on a target from 100 yards consistently. Anybody know what the bible says about the time when Israel falls as a nation??






hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2012, 08:06:57 AM »
When government buys food for poor people it's socialism. When we buy weapons for other countries to attack their neighbors it's doing God's work. Christian nation that doesn't know the first thing about Christ.
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Jl808

Israel vs Hamas
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2012, 08:09:58 AM »
The Bible says that ALL nations will turn against it and Israel will stand alone. But all that goes against it will hurt themselves.  See Zechariah 12. It prophesies the future deliverance of Israel which may be now.

(Zechariah 12:1-6 NLT)
This  message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord : “This message is from the Lord , who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit.  I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah.  On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves. “On that day,” says the Lord , “I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of their enemies.  And the clans of Judah will say to themselves, ‘The people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, their God.’ “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.

Makes me wonder which side the US will be in all this.  I wonder if the US will turn against Israel also, which current events seem to indicate.
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