Shall Issue; valid in county of issue only; keeps the "engaged in the protection of life and property" requirement for open carry which thus far has been exclusively interpreted to mean "employed as a uniformed security guard and only valid when in uniform and on the clock".

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=410&year=2017

HB410     

Measure Title:   RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Report Title:    Licenses to Carry; Firearms
Description:    Requires a county police chief to grant a qualified applicant a license to carry a concealed or unconcealed handgun and ammunition within the county.
    
Introducer(s):   KONG, Tokioka

So this would be the 3rd ccw bill proposed this year?

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So this would be the 3rd ccw bill proposed this year?

Three working days so far, three CCW bills: Two in the House (HB36, HB410) , one in the Senate (SB212). I'm not counting HB13: "Authorizes off-duty corrections officers to carry a concealed weapon without requiring a permit." Just because I think that's total bullshit discrimination.

I'm sure there are a lot (a few?) more bills to come regarding firearms, likely most of them to our disadvantage.

The challenge will be to get the committee chairpersons to hold a hearing for the bills we favor, as it basically comes down to one single person in the state determining, purely on their whim, whether or not a bill even gets a hearing where testimony can be presented, much less voted out of committee. "That's the way the system works." So far, at least in the past few years, no CCW shall issue bill has gotten a hearing. They don't even wanna talk about it...

Last legislative session JI808 created ( ) a convenient spreadsheet of all the relevant bills in (see above sticky: 2016 Hawaii Legislature Firearms Related Bills (Google Spreadsheet)  https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=21792.0). Hopefully that will happen again. I was just trying to give folks an early heads up about what's in the works these first few days.

I'm hoping Trump will come visit Hawaii and give a short speech in front of Air Force One calling out the fascist statist Hawaii legislators, executives, law enforcement and bureaucrats for the tyrants they are as they rule against "the people". Okay, maybe "hoping" wasn't the right word: fantasizing...

If it ever makes it to the testimony phase I will do my best to go and testify.

So to carry statewide you will need permits in four counties?  Doesn't make sense to need four permits in one of the smallest states in the union.  A permit in any county should be good statewide. 

So to carry statewide you will need permits in four counties?  Doesn't make sense to need four permits in one of the smallest states in the union.  A permit in any county should be good statewide.

Please, don't try to inject logic or rationality or evidence into the discussion of Hawaii's unconstitutional restrictive firearms laws and proposed laws or you will end up with a huge headache if not nausea or distraught weeping. Don't ask me how I know.    

So to carry statewide you will need permits in four counties?  Doesn't make sense to need four permits in one of the smallest states in the union.  A permit in any county should be good statewide.

Some states are by county. Nevada recentlly changed from county to statewide. At least in hawaii, an ocean seperates the counties so u know when ur crossing into a different one.

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