Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State (Read 10406 times)

drck1000

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2021, 08:15:15 AM »
I was thinking about getting a Shotgun, IWI TS12 caught my eye.  Actually all the tactical shotgun in a bullpup form factor look interesting.  I don't have a lot of experience other than the familiarization fire when I was station in Korea circa mid 1990s. Very different kick than the M16A2 but it was a hoot to shot.

Anyway the reason for my original question was that I have a trip coming up to Nevada.  It looks like Nevada sells rifles/shotgun to out of state customers as long as it is in person (Online/Over Phone requires shipping to FFL).  The only thing that concerns me is that the 1 day to do background check, is taking about 3 days due to COVID.  At least that is what I am reading from the internet.  So this might be a no-go for my up coming trip.
Awesome! That’s IWI TS12 looks interesting. I’ve heard of it, but never shot or handled it.

Good luck in Vegas and your search for new rifle!  :shaka: Post pics if/when you get it.

tim808

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2021, 08:07:52 PM »
Wow!  I’ve never been interested in going to Vegas but being able to buy toys changes that :-)

changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2021, 08:40:39 PM »


Nevada background checks take about 5-30 minutes depending on the day and time. Weekends are busier, but mid-week is quick. The LGS calls the State Police and they return the yes/no right then. If you have a week, do a CCW class on the first day, go apply for your NV CCW right after you get your affidavit and you probably can pick up the permit before you leave town. NV has a requirement to pick up in person, they will not mail it to you. Or take the affidavit and apply for the AZ which will be mailed to you.

They mail it to you within 120 days per the law. The address on your HI ID must match your mailing. Info is on the LV Metro PD website. Click online services and CCW section. Then FAQ.

NV now accepts walk ins.

My last trip preCV, had a store employee on hold for an hour trying to do the background.

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changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2021, 08:42:31 PM »
I was thinking about getting a Shotgun, IWI TS12 caught my eye.  Actually all the tactical shotgun in a bullpup form factor look interesting.  I don't have a lot of experience other than the familiarization fire when I was station in Korea circa mid 1990s. Very different kick than the M16A2 but it was a hoot to shot.

Anyway the reason for my original question was that I have a trip coming up to Nevada.  It looks like Nevada sells rifles/shotgun to out of state customers as long as it is in person (Online/Over Phone requires shipping to FFL).  The only thing that concerns me is that the 1 day to do background check, is taking about 3 days due to COVID.  At least that is what I am reading from the internet.  So this might be a no-go for my up coming trip.
I shot the TS12. Very cool. Esp if u want something different.

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6716J

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2021, 01:01:33 PM »

They mail it to you within 120 days per the law. The address on your HI ID must match your mailing. Info is on the LV Metro PD website. Click online services and CCW section. Then FAQ.

NV now accepts walk ins.

My last trip preCV, had a store employee on hold for an hour trying to do the background.

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Used to be pick up in person. Time to renew then
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2021, 01:29:18 PM »

They mail it to you within 120 days per the law. The address on your HI ID must match your mailing. Info is on the LV Metro PD website. Click online services and CCW section. Then FAQ.

NV now accepts walk ins.

My last trip preCV, had a store employee on hold for an hour trying to do the background.

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My understanding is NV only accepts NV-based training / testing affidavits for CCW.  The training and test affidavit must be completed in the county in which you plan to apply for CCW.  So, you have to be in NV at least for the qualification test and to be fingerprinted.  That applies for initial and renewal permits.

Once you have the affidavit, you can apply in person in that county's Police Chief's or Sheriff's office.  They will take your fingerprints and begin processing your application.  Once ready, the permit will be mailed to you.  Mine took about a month.

As a non-resident, you can choose which county to apply in as long as your training/test are in that county.

You also have the option of applying online or via the mail, but you still have to provide your electronic fingerprints in person.  So for most, applying in person is the way to go.  If you just don't have time for more than taking the class and test, you can apply online or by mail as long as you appear at the issuing department to pick your permit up when notified.  You have to appear in person at least once during the process no matter what -- either when applying, or when picking up the permit.

For renewal, you have to retake the qualification test again in the same county where your permit was issued.

There's no provision for picking up your permit within a few days of applying.  So, don't plan on being able to pick it up during the same visit as when you apply.

As a side bit of trivia related to other threads, in NV, if you don't have a concealed carry permit, you can't concealed carry anywhere, including your own property.  Open is fine, just not concealed.

FYI.
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6716J

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2021, 11:05:46 AM »
Going to Vegas info... this is from LVMPD aka METRO

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/RecordsFingerprintBureau/Pages/ConcealedFirearms.aspx

...

·         Complete a Nevada certified firearm’s training course by a certified firearms instructor within in Clark County prior to submitting application.

·         Initial application – 8-hour class (must include live fire qualification)

·         Renewal application – 4-hour class (must include live fire qualification)

Nevada residents must apply within the county residing in. LVMPD accepts only Clark County.
-  Out of state applicants must complete course within the Nevada in accordance with NRS 202.3653-202.369. No out of state certifications accepted.

·   Walk-in applications accepted at LVMPD Records & Fingerprint Bureau

·    Clark County Approved CCW firearms instructor list( https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/RecordsFingerprintBureau/Documents/Published%20Instructor%20List%20for%20PIO%2071521.pdf )

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changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2021, 11:25:20 AM »
Here's some good info

nevadacarry.org

changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2021, 01:21:11 PM »


You also have the option of applying online or via the mail, but you still have to provide your electronic fingerprints in person.  So for most, applying in person is the way to go.  If you just don't have time for more than taking the class and test, you can apply online or by mail as long as you appear at the issuing department to pick your permit up when notified.  You have to appear in person at least once during the process no matter what -- either when applying, or when picking up the permit.



You still have to show up in person and show them the docs and do prints and photo at a later scheduled date.  So for a non-resident, this is a bad option cause u will have to fly back to Vegas to do this.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2021, 01:28:03 PM »
You still have to show up in person and show them the docs and do prints and photo at a later scheduled date.  So for a non-resident, this is a bad option cause u will have to fly back to Vegas to do this.

Normally, that's true, but it's still an option.  I'd rather have it mailed to me so I can use it on my next trip to CC.

Some people go to Vegas quite often.  I used to go almost quarterly on my way back from business trips.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2021, 01:44:50 PM »
Normally, that's true, but it's still an option.  I'd rather have it mailed to me so I can use it on my next trip to CC.

Some people go to Vegas quite often.  I used to go almost quarterly on my way back from business trips.

IDK what the turn around time is from submitting docs online to getting the appointment to come in person.  If it's more 1 week, then it's not feasible. IDK if there's an expiration date either of when to come back.

So with that being said, even if you do frequent vegas often, it's easier to do a walk in and be mailed your permit.  When we did ours, had 30 people before us and we were out of there in 12 minutes.

HeliosRX8

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2021, 07:35:43 PM »
Is the training, testing, application, fingerprinting, etc still required if someone has a ccw/cfp with NV reciprocity?

changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2021, 07:48:27 PM »
Is the training, testing, application, fingerprinting, etc still required if someone has a ccw/cfp with NV reciprocity?
No, that is only required for a NV ccw.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2021, 09:07:05 PM »
Is the training, testing, application, fingerprinting, etc still required if someone has a ccw/cfp with NV reciprocity?

Is all that required to do what?

To carry concealed in NV on an out-of-state permit?

Buy a gun in NV?

Apply for a  NV CCW permit? (fewer requirements to get a NV permit)

Not sure what your question is.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

RSN172

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2021, 09:32:15 PM »
I had a NV permit which expired in 2020. Because NV required in state renewal class, I just renewed my UT and AZ permits.  Either one is good to CC in NV.
Happily living in Puna

HeliosRX8

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2021, 03:23:39 PM »
Is all that required to do what?

To carry concealed in NV on an out-of-state permit?

Buy a gun in NV?

Apply for a  NV CCW permit? (fewer requirements to get a NV permit). 

Not sure what your question is.

My bad, too many different questions flying around, I was asking only in regards to conceal carry in NV with an out of state permit. If one already has a current UT&AZ ccw permit, does that person still need to go thru the NV processing before carrying ccw or can they just show up in NV with the UT&AZ card and be good to go?


changemyoil66

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2021, 04:21:45 PM »
My bad, too many different questions flying around, I was asking only in regards to conceal carry in NV with an out of state permit. If one already has a current UT&AZ ccw permit, does that person still need to go thru the NV processing before carrying ccw or can they just show up in NV with the UT&AZ card and be good to go?
No need go thru the NV process while using another states ccw permit.

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HeliosRX8

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2021, 06:52:15 PM »
Right on, thank you. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2021, 07:25:11 PM »
Right on, thank you.

It's always a good idea to go to the state's website and look for Conceal Carry Permit Reciprocity agreements.  That gives all the details you need. 

Some states are simpler than others.  You might see that all states's permits are honored without exception, while another state might not accept a non-resident permit, or a non-resident permit from a particular state (permit requirements might not include enough training).

As for NV, here's what they say:

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Out-of-State Carry Concealed Weapon Permit Recognition

*Effective July 1, 2016
In accordance with SB 175 and AB 488 of the 2015 legislative session, the State of Nevada
will recognize the following States' CCW permits. Click here to view. Request Document
Remediation - Click here to view.

These laws allow holders of valid permits from these states to carry a concealed weapon
while in the State of Nevada. The permit must be in the possession of the permittee at all
times while carrying a firearm.
https://rccd.nv.gov/FeesForms/Brady/CCW-Permit-Recognition/

Quote
Pursuant to SB 175 and AB 488 of the 2015 Legislative Session, the state of Nevada will
recognize concealed weapons permits from the following states:

Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho Enhanced Permit
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi (Enhanced permits only)
Montana
New Mexico
North Dakota (Class 1 only)
Ohio
Oklahoma
South Dakota (Enhanced permits only)
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

For the circumstances in which a holder of a permit issued by another state may carry
concealed in Nevada please see NRS 202.3689.
https://rccd.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/gsdnvgov/content/Resources/2021%20State%20listx(16%20July%2021).pdf

Another good source is the USCCA Reciprocity and Gun Law Map site:

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/ut-gun-laws/

No matter what, it's a good practice to check these reciprocity sources just prior to traveling, as reciprocity agreements between states can expire or be revoked.  That's why it's a good idea to maybe have more than one permit when traveling.  If one permit is no longer honored in a state you're in, hopefully the other one still is.

#NationalCCWReciprocityNow!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

HeliosRX8

Re: Buying Rifle/Shotgun Out of State
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2021, 11:12:12 PM »
Thanks Flapp for the resources!