http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1483386_THE_ARFCOM_1_MOA_ALL_DAY_LONG_CHALLENGE.html

What is it? It’s a challenge to all to prove how good you really are with a rifle! Not sometimes but consistently.

Keep it simple 5 shot groups, 5 groups per target

1 MOA = 100 Yards = 1.047"
––––––––-50 Yards = 0.5235"
––––––––-25 Yards = 0.26175"

anyone here up for this challenge? serious or non, I think it'd be fun to just go and watch you shoot
this can be a fun challenge for 2A members structured around the same rules as arfcom

REMEMBER this, all 5 groups of 5 shots must AVERAGE 1 MOA to make the list and claim the title of being a 1 MOA shooter.

Doing one .99" group and four 1.5" groups does not equal a 1 MOA shooter, it means you got lucky once and you are a 1.398 MOA shooter (assuming a 100 yard target)

This is a challenge but don't be afraid to try it out and post, every possible rifle style has been listed with a category and a distance. It's all in good fun and to be honest about your abilities.

With that in mind here are the rules.

1. ONE sheet of paper, 8.5”x11” preferred and it MUST HAVE ALL 5 targets.

Meaning 1 sheet of paper with FIVE targets. NO INDIVIDUAL TARGETS. THEY WILL NOT COUNT.


2. On that 1 sheet of paper with 5 targets you shoot 5 groups of 5 shots each. (In one day)


3. Each group is measured OUTSIDE GREASE RING TO OUTSIDE GREASE RING with calipers (preferred) or tape rule in inches. Then subtract the diameter of one bullet IE if your shooting a .223 and your 5 shot group measures 1.13" you will subtract 0.224" to get a group of 0.906". If you are shooting a .22lr you will subtract 0.223", for a 308 you will subtract 0.308" (Remember- the more precise your measurement the better)

Some common measurements:
.172" - .17 HMR
.223" - .22 Short, Long, Long Rifle
.224" - .223 Remington, .22 WMR, .22 Hornet
.243" - .243 Winchester
.284" - 7mm-08 Remington, 7mm Mag
.308" - .308 Winchester, .30-06, .300 Mag
.311" - 7.62x39 Soviet, .303 British
.338" - .338 Mag


4. NO MECHANICAL REST/SLED, NO VICE OR SIMILAR DEVICE THAT SUPPORTS THE ENITRE RIFLE, NO SHOOTING JACKETS, NO STRAPPING THE GUN INTO ANYTHING, NO LARGE REAR SANDBAG ** OR REST. SHOOTER MUST HAVE POSITIVE CONTROL OF RIFLE.

THE POINT IS TO SEE HOW GOOD YOU SHOOT, NOT HOW WELL YOU CAN MOUNT IT IN A MACHINE.


5. OK TO USE sandbag, rest, ruck, bipod, rock with a hat, sling etc. on forearm of the rifle.

**Will be OK to use a small rear sandbag (ie: sand sock or squeeze bag) or bean bag no bigger then a softball that must require constant hand pressure to maintain hold on target.

IE. Can NOT sandbag gun inplace. Shooter must maintain positive control of rifle.


6. Shooting position is up to you, sitting, standing, prone.


7. Posting: 1st picture of target with 5 groups of 5 shots each, next to them write down group size. 2nd picture with calipers (or tape rule) left in place over BEST group. 3rd picture of rifle and shooting setup (ie. Sandbag, prone and so on). Post all 3 pics and also type in the post your 5 group sizes and what the average is. IE. .99”, 1.5”, 1.5”, 1.5”, 1.5” add them up, equals 6.99” and divide by five. So 6.99/5 = 1.398”

8. In each division you can only have your name up once per gun. Meaning that if you shoot the Iron Sight 22lr with your 10/22 and average a 1.65” group and lets say place 4th. If you use that same gun and do worse, even if you would place better then someone else it will not count for your group. Best group counts.

Now if you then shoot Iron Sight 22lr with your M&P 15-22 and shoot better, say 1.25” average groups and place 2nd. Both that score and the 10/22 score will remain. Different guns will be allowed for different group rankings within a division. Best group counts.

This also goes for the 1 MOA list. Meaning only your best MOA will be ranked on the 1 MOA list BUT if you also shoot 1 MOA or less with a different rifle, that will also count and your name will be added to the list for each different rifle you shoot 1 MOA or less with.

9. Remember, this is NOT a Bullseye challenge, it's a Groups challenge.

10. Any and all ammo is fine I don't care if you use Factory loads or your super secret Hand Load that Moses gave you.

5 groups per target ?

25 shot groups ?

That's some pretty good shooting.

Sounds fun!

Guess I have to shoot on the ground!

We need to build some concrete benches at KHSC!

Guess I have to shoot on the ground!

We need to build some concrete benches at KHSC!

And improve the frame holders.

Im down.

5 groups per target ?

25 shot groups ?

That's some pretty good shooting.

I read it as a single piece of paper containing 25 holes, distributed as 5 groups of 5 holes.

I read it as a single piece of paper containing 25 holes, distributed as 5 groups of 5 holes.

If I shoot all 5 shots in one hole, five times.  Will people think I'm cheating?

My gun will do ragged holes too....so 5 holes in 25 shots wins?
Maybe we better do this blindfolded?

crap...I need to break in the new barrel first and I would so be down. We could make it really interesting and do a iron sights only version! 

We can talk about this all day how about Aug 10 or 11 at about 10 am? prone side, no bench
We can use the arfcom targets or the attached one for 50 yards.

I read it as a single piece of paper containing 25 holes, distributed as 5 groups of 5 holes.

I assumed this was the case, as well.  Something like the Redfield sighting targets that have one center aim point and four smaller ones in the corners.

So what is the date, time, target, rules?

I read it as a single piece of paper containing 25 holes, distributed as 5 groups of 5 holes.

Tee Hee ! You're right. 

The shoot-n-see target with the 5 diamond targets on the grid would work well.

I'm down for the 11th @ 10 AM

updated the OP with rules

Sounds good.  one thing tho...  Is this going to be a postal match, or are we going to go down on the 11th @ 10 am to shoot this match, then post the results?

Oh I think it could be an ongoing thing. I'm just down to go to the range on the 11th and watch whoever wants to try
I may try with my 22lr.

crap...I need to break in the new barrel first and I would so be down. We could make it really interesting and do a iron sights only version! 

I vote for no sights!!!

I vote for no sights!!!

That sounds just a bit SHORTSIGHTED to me!