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Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« on: July 30, 2013, 11:20:13 PM »
Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers whenever I take my weapons to the range, for service, etc?  I have been just in case I get stopped for some reason and the cops ask me if the weapon is registered to me.  I would rather not if I don't need to, just in case I lose them or something.

Thanks for any help.
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Kingkeoni

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2013, 11:25:31 PM »
As far as I know, there is nothing in Hawaii's laws that say you have to carry your registration paper with you.

I never do.
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2013, 11:28:01 PM »
Quote from: sound wave on July 30, 2013, 11:20:13 PM
Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers whenever I take my weapons to the range, for service, etc?  I have been just in case I get stopped for some reason and the cops ask me if the weapon is registered to me.  I would rather not if I don't need to, just in case I lose them or something.

Thanks for any help.

Do you want to be the next identity theft victim? Do not, and I would repeat, do not carry around your registration papers.

There is no benefit, at all, what so ever, to doing so; but, there are, however, many, many reasons why you would NOT want to.
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 06:34:52 AM »
Thank you very much guys!
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Haoleb

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 06:50:27 AM »
When I registered my guns, I asked the woman who was handling the registration the same thing she said I should carry a copy of them with the gun, but to black out the SSN. So I just keep a copy tucked away under the foam liner of my gun cases that has the SSN blacked out from both sides with sharpie.

Perhaps oahu registration papers are different but the ones I have from  the Kona PD basically just have my name and address on there.. so not too worried about someone getting that. If someone has the paper they have my gun too!
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 08:05:22 AM »
No you dont have to, only if you want to buy something.
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branz1029

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 09:10:34 AM »
yeah i do the same, I have a permit in my wallet in which i blacked out all critical information, and i have another copy underneath the foam of my gun cases.......

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nathanm14fan

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 09:21:06 AM »
Is there any effort to get the registration and permitting systems unified across all of the counties? I believe the HRS stipulates that the AG oversee a unified system, but every county seems to have its own setup.
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 11:56:36 AM »
Quote from: Haoleb on July 31, 2013, 06:50:27 AM
When I registered my guns, I asked the woman who was handling the registration the same thing she said I should carry a copy of them with the gun, but to black out the SSN. So I just keep a copy tucked away under the foam liner of my gun cases that has the SSN blacked out from both sides with sharpie.



We always carry a copy of what ever firearms we are taking . Just the copies with curtain things blacked out . Not the permit to acquire .
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 11:59:59 AM »
Quote from: nathanm14fan on July 31, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
Is there any effort to get the registration and permitting systems unified across all of the counties? I believe the HRS stipulates that the AG oversee a unified system, but every county seems to have its own setup.

HDF had requested this from the Attorney general but it fell on deaf ears.


For most of you "blacking it out"  I bet that I can still recover the information from your form, especially if it's real registration and not a copy.    With just your name and area, I can get your full social security number, date of birth, and so forth. The WHOLE form is dangerous.

The biggest question is, Why?  Why have it with you?  What's the purpose or point?
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 12:21:48 PM »
say you were going or coming from the range,
get pulled over, could hpd confiscate your firearms
for no registration papers?
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 12:24:15 PM »
Quote from: popeye on July 31, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
say you were going or coming from the range,
get pulled over, could hpd confiscate your firearms
for no registration papers?

No.   
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 12:30:47 PM »
Quote from: popeye on July 31, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
say you were going or coming from the range,
get pulled over, could hpd confiscate your firearms
for no registration papers?


Quote from: Kingkeoni on July 30, 2013, 11:25:31 PM
As far as I know, there is nothing in Hawaii's laws that say you have to carry your registration paper with you.

I never do.
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GZire

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 06:04:19 PM »
Quote from: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: popeye on July 31, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
say you were going or coming from the range,
get pulled over, could hpd confiscate your firearms
for no registration papers?
No.

Of course they can.  It may not mean they'll be able to keep it, but seriously what are you going to do?  It's not the time and place to get into it with the police if they try that.
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dirsh

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 06:16:08 PM »
I was told that Magnum's required you to have your registration with you to shoot it at their range so I brought mine when I went (to Hono Firearms). They never asked
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 06:49:20 PM »
Quote from: GZire on July 31, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
No.


Of course they can.  It may not mean they'll be able to keep it, but seriously what are you going to do?  It's not the time and place to get into it with the police if they try that.

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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 06:55:59 PM »
Even if you had the regis with you they could still confiscate your stuff if they wanted too. Who's to say you are telling the truth about going to the range, gun shop, or place of sojourn?   It's vague like that. 
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2013, 03:09:30 AM »
Ihre papiere, bitte.

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GZire

Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 07:52:26 AM »
Quote from: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 06:49:20 PM
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After the fact maybe, but you understand my point.  Get the wrong guy and the discussion is going to turn into a cussing match (probably on their side) and the next thing you know you're going to have knees on the back of your head, neck, & back.
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Re: Am I supposed to carry around my firearms registration papers?
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 08:05:41 AM »
Quote from: GZire on August 01, 2013, 07:52:26 AM

After the fact maybe, but you understand my point.  Get the wrong guy and the discussion is going to turn into a cussing match (probably on their side) and the next thing you know you're going to have knees on the back of your head, neck, & back.

I'd also like to point out that Hawaii has some of the strongest 4th amendment laws in the country.  So it probably depends.  Unless you had the guns in the same area / compartment, I don't even know how they would know :).
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