I Want One (Read 4964 times)

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I Want One
« on: August 09, 2013, 12:08:42 AM »
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Re: I Want One
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 07:52:45 AM »
Wow. Nice!

Gonna go look at electromagnets now. :)
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Re: I Want One
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 08:17:45 AM »
Too bad he used elongated projectiles, probably because of the length of the solenoids.  You can see that many of them keyholed.

I swear, someday some smart magnetics cookie is going to figure out a way to impart rotation magnetically.

Otherwise, we're kinda stuck with round balls with a spin imparted to them by friction.  You don't have to spin a ball axially to get the benefits --the main deal in spinning the ball is to keep the air from piling up against the front, and then side-slipping off the front in odd directions to push the ball sideways randomly.*

I have a propane-driven Colt Mark IV clone which has a little adjustable doohickey in the barrel for imparting a horizontal spin and that thing is amazingly accurate for a round-ball (BBs) firing gun. 

And with round balls it could use shorter solenoids.... and more of them, come to think of it.

The accuracy of spinning round balls  was shown in 1742, before rifling was common, by some guy firing round balls through a bent smoothbore barrel and noting that the grouping was much better.  You will note that the spin in his case was not axial.  (Cf pp 142-145 , "Gunpowder" by Jack Kelly, ISBN 0-465-03718-6.  A softcover edition is also available.)

He had bent the barrel by some four inches to show this.

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* This effect was not as great with heavy round shot from artillery, since the cannonballs were so much heavier than balls out of a musket, compared to the air they were going through.  But it was still there to some extent.



« Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 08:35:37 AM by 230RN »
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

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Re: I Want One
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 10:59:38 AM »
i wonder if they could pit fins ont he projectiles, make it like a dart.

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 11:51:25 AM »
that would go perfect with my Prius :shaka:

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Re: I Want One
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 10:47:43 PM »
I wonder if they could put fins on the projectiles, make it like a dart.

Yes.  They're called flechettes.  I think that means "little arrow" in French.

They're sometimes loaded into shotshells.




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I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

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Re: I Want One
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2013, 12:48:12 AM »
 >:( :'(

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 04:08:11 AM »
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

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Re: I Want One
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2013, 08:03:13 AM »
cool stuff...pretty soon gun powder guns will be considered curio and relic...yes! no need register! lol

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Re: I Want One
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 08:22:35 AM »
Yes.  They're called flechettes.  I think that means "little arrow" in French.

They're sometimes loaded into shotshells.




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If they could find a way to stabilize the flight of those flechettes, that would be some crazy stuff..