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Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2013, 11:36:07 AM »
Think bushmaster used to make a old California legal, flip open upper ar pistol.  The magwel was welded shut and was top load only.

suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2013, 02:00:29 AM »
yes u can have a AR pistol



suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2013, 02:25:51 AM »

dirsh

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2013, 09:44:08 AM »
can we get more details on that thing?
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Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2013, 08:11:34 AM »
HRS 134-1
    "Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

     (1)  An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

     (2)  A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;

     (3)  A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;

     (4)  A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;

     (5)  A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or

     (6)  It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;

but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length,

"Semiautomatic" means the mode of operation by which a firearm uses the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to extract a fired cartridge and chamber a fresh cartridge with each single pull of a trigger."

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  If its NOT  a semi automatic OR accepts a detachable magazine OR a pistol with +16" barrel then it is not a "assault pistol" by definition.  Furthermore, all the sub parts do not apply......50oz, threaded barrel, foregrip, etc, etc...........

Bolt action, single shot, +16" barreled pistol or non detachable magazine pistols were NEVER banned.



Since I manufactured the receiver without a magwell it cannot accept a magazine and without a gas system the firearm will not cycle a new round into the chamber. Thus it is not  a "Assault Pistol" by definition.

suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2013, 10:32:16 AM »
Cant you just weld the mag to the lower to make it fixed...?


Have you tried to weld thin aluminum (mag) to thick forged aluminum. Not and easy task and you'd need an AC/DC tig with 100%  argon.

dirsh

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2013, 10:44:14 AM »
I was wondering the stuff like what caliber, kind of bolt carrier and how does it operate, what brand are the parts?

just did a quick google search and found this one
http://www.tacticalmachining.com/single-shot-ar-15-lower.html

then thought about it more and I could make something like that out of an 80% lower, just don't mill out the magwell
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Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2013, 03:50:24 PM »
Its a single shot bolt operated chambered in 5.56.
The lower is milled without the magwell. The upper is a LAR side cocking with their bolt.
Barrel is 4.5 " from a cut 7" with a fake can made by a SOT in FL.
Other parts are just spares laying around.

The lower was also made to my design from the same SOT in FL.
Tax paid and transferred to a local FFL as a " receiver".
Final assemble was done in HI and registered as a "pistol"

suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2013, 07:31:56 PM »
If the AR is a semiautomatic and accepts a detachable magazine but has a +16" barrel it is also NOT a "assault pistol".


HRS134-1

"Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

...........but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, ..................


http://www.mgawley.com/hawaii_revised_statutes_134.htm#134-1

nf9648

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2013, 08:13:08 AM »
Nice to see how that turned out...

suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2013, 06:33:45 PM »
Haaaa
I was yours at one point.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2013, 09:05:00 PM »
Haaaa
I was yours at one point.

TMI!   :rofl:
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
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suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2013, 10:06:03 PM »
Opps
The "T" disappeared .

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2013, 11:33:06 PM »
Opps
The "T" disappeared .


Suuuuuuuure, the "T" disappeared .....  LOL! :rofl:     :rofl:     :rofl:
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

nf9648

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2013, 11:59:58 PM »
Haaaa
I was yours at one point.

I had such an urge to slap a .510 dtc upper on and a buttstock too....

suka

Re: AR stripped lower registered as a pistol?
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2013, 04:04:40 PM »
 :shaka: :shaka:
Are you back in HI. Haven't seen you over at HI hometown.