Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI??? (Read 26378 times)

fatpanda

Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« on: August 12, 2013, 06:07:11 PM »
Are AR15 pistols legal in Hawaii? and if so, whats the process of getting one?

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 06:11:37 PM »
Are AR15 pistols legal in Hawaii? and if so, whats the process of getting one?

Check this thread...

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=10297.msg99856#msg99856
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Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 07:25:35 PM »
Wish they were! I'd like to reunite with my toys in the mainland.....

Funtimes

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 08:55:53 PM »
If they have a fixed magazine they could be.
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Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 09:04:10 PM »
If they have a fixed magazine they could be.
so its can be done with a fixed magazine?

Funtimes

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 09:27:32 PM »
so its can be done with a fixed magazine?

An assault pistol is a pistol with a detachable magazine.  So if something has a fixed and non-detachable magazine, I don't see how they could classify it as such.
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Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 09:31:27 PM »
An assault pistol is a pistol with a detachable magazine.  So if something has a fixed and non-detachable magazine, I don't see how they could classify it as such.
I see, good loophole you got there...... btw how do you get into that HDF thing you guys got going on? might be interested, i have to resharpen my run and gun skills. it has been a while....

macsak

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 09:56:41 PM »
check out the links in his sig line

I see, good loophole you got there...... btw how do you get into that HDF thing you guys got going on? might be interested, i have to resharpen my run and gun skills. it has been a while....

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Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 10:52:44 PM »
check out the links in his sig line
okay thanks brother.... :shaka:

macsak

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 07:09:22 AM »
plus he should be at the pau hana at speedy's, so you can chat him up there too

okay thanks brother.... :shaka:

fatpanda

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2013, 04:02:13 PM »
I see, good loophole you got there...... btw how do you get into that HDF thing you guys got going on? might be interested, i have to resharpen my run and gun skills. it has been a while....

planning to join asap too. just want all my gear first before i do

bass monkey

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 04:15:11 PM »
If you look up the HRS, there are like 5 or 6 criteria, and if you meet 4 or 5 of them, its assault pistol.  Things like weight, removable magazine, forward hand guard, and some other stuff. If you don't meet the criteria, its not an assault pistol.  Ie. Single shot.

GZire

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 04:59:59 PM »
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0001.htm

HRS 134-1 - Definition of an assault pistol for the State of Hawaii



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Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

     (1)  An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

     (2)  A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;

     (3)  A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;

     (4)  A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;

     (5)  A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or

     (6)  It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;

but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, an antique pistol as defined in this section or a curio or relic as those terms are used in 18 United States Code §921(16) or 27 Code of Federal Regulations 178.11.

monster796

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2013, 03:32:27 AM »
I’m working on building one, piece by piece. I was going to purchase every part except for the Barrel, lower receiver and the buffer tube saving those for when I left this communist land but, I think I will see about getting a magazine welded to a lower (AR Lower registered as a pistol and consulting a lawyer IRT the Detachable magazine being welded to a lower part) and register the pistol with HPD... It might take me some time but, I will get back to you folks on the details.


-Rico

monster796

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2013, 04:32:48 AM »
Darn... I just came to the relization that this must be done with a 10 Round Mag.  :(

suka

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2013, 05:26:15 AM »
Remove the gas tube and it becomes a bolt action pistol. Which also bypasses HRS.
And still able to accept  a magazine.

JN 8:12

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2013, 05:25:04 PM »
Remove the gas tube and it becomes a bolt action pistol. Which also bypasses HRS.
And still able to accept  a magazine.

thats some smart thinking suka.
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dogman

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2013, 07:22:08 PM »
Darn... I just came to the relization that this must be done with a 10 Round Mag.  :(
If it's not a detachable magazine then you are not limited to ten rounds, are you?

suka

Re: Are AR15 Pistols Legal in HI???
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2013, 11:00:54 PM »
From the interpretation, only applies to detachable magazines.


HRS134-8(c)
The manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable ammunition magazines with a capacity in excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable of use with a pistol is prohibited. This subsection shall not apply to magazines originally designed to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition which have been modified to accept no more than ten rounds and which are not capable of being readily restored to a capacity of more than ten rounds.

HRS134-8(d)
  Any person violating subsection (a) or (b) shall be guilty of a class C felony and shall be imprisoned for a term of five years without probation.  Any person violating subsection (c) shall be guilty of a misdemeanor except when a detachable magazine prohibited under this section is possessed while inserted into a pistol in which case the person shall be guilty of a class C felony. [L 1988, c 275, pt of §2; am L 1989, c 261, §6 and c 263, §4; am L 1992, c 286, §§3, 4]