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Was it FMJ (of course, we won't know) and might HP have done better?

Or did he not place the shots correctly? Even at that range?

(In fact at that range, the shots might be low, if he didn't know about it).

I posted a similar question a few months back, and the general consensus was that a good fully bonded soft point, and shot placement was very key.  People posted their mixed experiences using 5.56/.223 ammo. 

As for this video, we don't know what he was shooting, or where is shots were ending up, you're right, at the range, using what looks like to be an acog, his shots may have been going low.  In fact, in the video, it looks like hes hitting it in the lower jaw, rather than straight to the noggin.

This video also might just be pointing out how damn tough boars can be.  Its actually a good example when remembering what takes a person out of the fight.  A person can live and keep fighting for up to 30 seconds even after being shot in the heart.  You have to make sure you always put enough rounds into whatever you are shooting, and put them in the right places.

god damn assholes. you don't just sit there watching your quarry squirm like that, that is WHY you carry a big fuckin knife with you and finish it off swiftly and give em the respect they deserve.

Even without a knife, they should've tried to finish it off much faster.  If there was ever a time and a place to unload a full magazine into a pigs head, that was one of them.

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Yeah that pig really suffered.  Finishing shot should've come much sooner. 

Q is right when would have to deal with pig hunters at my old job break barrel .22 air rifles were the new weapon of choice.  I'd assume it has to fact its not a firearm so firing it in palolo valley, kalihi valley and other areas closer to town they wouldn't get into as much trouble.

Gone are thrle days I guess of having a ugly .30-30 lever action pig gun

god damn assholes. you don't just sit there watching your quarry squirm like that, that is WHY you carry a big fuckin knife with you and finish it off swiftly and give em the respect they deserve.

Yup. I agree. I was waiting for them to pull a sidearm (1911 or even a 9mm) when they were point blank, but nothing.

I have killed a few pigs with a .22, albeit smaller than the one in the video you posted. The last good size pig I got with a 1oz rifled slug from my 12 gauge from about 10 yards. It dropped right there. even found the wad inside the pig.

If you ever watch that life below zero show one of the guys on there is a guide in alaska and I have seen him take relatively large game with a .223 AR. Good thing is you have quick followup shots if necessary. I think the .223 round is plenty sufficient for pigs. You might want to look into the heavier bullets though depending on your twist rate.

I posted a similar question a few months back, and the general consensus was that a good fully bonded soft point, and shot placement was very key.  People posted their mixed experiences using 5.56/.223 ammo. 

As for this video, we don't know what he was shooting, or where is shots were ending up, you're right, at the range, using what looks like to be an acog, his shots may have been going low.  In fact, in the video, it looks like hes hitting it in the lower jaw, rather than straight to the noggin.

This video also might just be pointing out how damn tough boars can be.  Its actually a good example when remembering what takes a person out of the fight.  A person can live and keep fighting for up to 30 seconds even after being shot in the heart.  You have to make sure you always put enough rounds into whatever you are shooting, and put them in the right places.

Yup - I guess it is just surprising that with so many rounds, SUPPOSEDLY hitting the brain box, the animal was still alive. So either the rounds were ineffective even at point blank (hard to believe a hog is THAT tough) or he basically missed the brain box. I think it HAS to be the latter. Surely .223 is not THAT ineffective.

I have killed a few pigs with a .22, albeit smaller than the one in the video you posted. The last good size pig I got with a 1oz rifled slug from my 12 gauge from about 10 yards. It dropped right there. even found the wad inside the pig.

If you ever watch that life below zero show one of the guys on there is a guide in alaska and I have seen him take relatively large game with a .223 AR. Good thing is you have quick followup shots if necessary. I think the .223 round is plenty sufficient for pigs. You might want to look into the heavier bullets though depending on your twist rate.

Yes I have watched that series. It is pretty good, showing various families and individuals in AK.

I recall that guy (I think he is in his 20s) even dispatched some animals with a 22LR Ruger Mark III (a wolverine I think).

Had some customers take out wild boar at 220 yards with 223 55gr
With an AR. They all said the boar dropped with 1 shot

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For game mammals:

According to the DLNR guys, air guns are not allowed for any hunting on Hawaii at all. Airguns are not humane enough to guarantee a kill. 

In Hawaii, 22 magnum (not LR) pistol is only allowed if you have dogs to pin down the pig. It is usually done to dispatch the pig at point blank range.  Otherwise, it has to be 357, 38 special, 44 magnum or any cartridge that is longer than 1.5" in length. Yeah, even the 45ACP is not allowed. 

Otherwise 223 is the minimum caliber needed for hunting with firearms only.  And shot placement is important for a clean kill.

Passivekinetic, check out the free DLNR Hunters ed class. It is WORTH IT even if you already have taken a handgun safety class.

If I'm not mistaken, 10mm is allowed as well.  BUT the wording in the rule books call it a 10mm magnum, which does not exist.  According to the DNLR guy that was present at the hunters ed course I attended, that it was just a mistake in the wording, and most know that it means 10mm auto.  But there is the off chance of running into a guy that knows zilch about firearms, and may get busted for not using the right caliber.

Side note... glock 20sf with 6inch barrel and extended slide... on my wish list.

Passivekinetic, check out the free DLNR Hunters ed class. It is WORTH IT even if you already have taken a handgun safety class.

Been there done that.

:-)

Cool!  I just completed my class yesterday! 

Still tons of people lining up for it?

It must be.  When I took my class, a bunch was on stand by.  The instructors mentioned the classes have always been full for the past years.

I got in the class by lining up for standby.  The instructor said that classes are normally booked 2 months in advance but about 15 or so people are no-shows during the day of the class. 

If you line up early at 2:00pm or 2:30pm on the day of the first class, there is a good chance that you will be able to get in as a standby.  Bring picture ID as it is required.