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Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« on: October 19, 2013, 12:56:15 AM »
Hey guys  thought id bring this topic up.

Im looking at buying a Walther PPQ.  They only sell them with high cap mags.  Any idea how i can bring one in to Hawaii without having them blocked then shipped.  Most people wont do it they just wanna sell the pistol.  should i tell them  to send pistol without mags?

thanks in advance
Kimo
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sliver

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2013, 01:30:04 AM »
just have the mags stripped into parts before shipping them and don't reassemble them in to highcap/normal cap mags, just have them blocked before you reassemble them and it should be fine
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 07:16:00 AM »
I was just looking at an upcoming 1911 hi cap that the manufacturer told me wouldn't be available in 10rd mags, from them, at least. They weren't interested in a "version" for restricted states since the only change was mag capacity, leaving it up to the buyer to figure out.

Quote from: sliver on October 19, 2013, 01:30:04 AM
... just have them blocked before you reassemble them and it should be fine

"It should be fine" would be dependent on how they are blocked, it seems, and open to interpretation.

If they can be "readily restored" (no standard for that is given) to high cap, you would be in violation of 134-8 (c)

 ???

A home grown solution vs using a manufacturer's blocking device/s for the mags may be the difference between "you are fined" and "you are fine". Being caught "inserted" vs "pulled out" is also the difference between oops and jail.  :wtf:

(Semi-off-topic, but related: Thanks, State Leg, for the continuing dim output; that's one way to keep Hawaii in the Dark Ages. The "grey area" and broadness in so many of our laws really sucks, and in my opinion only serves as a tool to punish the citizens since interpretation is very subjective and never in our favor, yeah.)
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 11:32:00 AM »
You can have the PPQ sent to a FFL who can block them. X-Ring  does it.  I block all the PPQ mags.
we also have 10rnd  M1 Mags for the PPQ

As long as the FFL will ship it is another story.

I don't know of any local FFL's that will give you the mags in parts. Most of them will won't give you the mags at all.
They will send out the mags and get them blocked. Unless you have arresting powers is the only work around
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 11:48:47 AM »
Quote from: albaradr on October 19, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Hey guys  thought id bring this topic up.

Im looking at buying a Walther PPQ.  They only sell them with high cap mags.  Any idea how i can bring one in to Hawaii without having them blocked then shipped.  Most people wont do it they just wanna sell the pistol.  should i tell them  to send pistol without mags?

thanks in advance
Kimo

I think you mean standard capacity lol. Damn you Hawaii Gun Laws!
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jaynick

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 11:51:47 AM »
the mags are worth 40-55 bucks each, so no dont tell them keep the mags.

have xring do the mags. trust me blocked 15 rd mags are much better than factory oem. i have both mags and the 9th and 10th round are harder to get in on the 10 rounder plus it looks ugly(the bottom 1/4 of the mag is sawed off and replaced with a huge plastic baseplate.)


btw ppq m2s can be had for less than 600 shipped with ffl if you look around hard enough  ;)
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 11:54:36 AM »
I have bought 4 PPQs with 15rnd mags on GB with no problems.....
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2013, 11:58:50 AM »
Quote from: SpeedTek on October 19, 2013, 11:54:36 AM
I have bought 4 PPQs with 15rnd mags on GB with no problems.....
you have 4??  :o
are any of them a 5" slide or .40sw? if so, i like sample!
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2013, 02:44:44 PM »
Quote from: SpeedTek on October 19, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
You can have the PPQ sent to a FFL who can block them. X-Ring  does it.  I block all the PPQ mags.
we also have 10rnd  M1 Mags for the PPQ

As long as the FFL will ship it is another story.

I don't know of any local FFL's that will give you the mags in parts. Most of them will won't give you the mags at all.
They will send out the mags and get them blocked. Unless you have arresting powers is the only work around

Technically, citizens have arresting powers also (citizens' arrest)
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2013, 03:08:42 PM »
Quote from: jaynick on October 19, 2013, 11:58:50 AM
you have 4??  :o
are any of them a 5" slide or .40sw? if so, i like sample!

I got them for customers.....normal channels was impossible to get...

anytime....I will be at the range at 2pm every Sunday.
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2013, 03:56:34 PM »
Quote from: SpeedTek on October 19, 2013, 03:08:42 PM
I got them for customers.....normal channels was impossible to get...

anytime....I will be at the range at 2pm every Sunday.
i see.
so you just have the one 4" 9mm then correct? ive seen you shoot it. i already have a 'classic' in 9mm, im just really interested in trying the 5" and the .40sw 4"
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2013, 04:21:24 PM »
I have Those on order

I also ordered a 4.6" threaded barrel 9mm
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2013, 04:51:18 PM »
Quote from: SOLEsource684 on October 19, 2013, 11:48:47 AM
I think you mean standard capacity lol. Damn you Hawaii Gun Laws!

Sad, how we're so brainwashed here. 
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sliver

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 07:17:43 PM »
Quote from: jaynick on October 19, 2013, 11:51:47 AM
the mags are worth 40-55 bucks each, so no dont tell them keep the mags.

have xring do the mags. trust me blocked 15 rd mags are much better than factory oem. i have both mags and the 9th and 10th round are harder to get in on the 10 rounder plus it looks ugly(the bottom 1/4 of the mag is sawed off and replaced with a huge plastic baseplate.)




who in the hell blocks off a mag by cutting the bottom half off and replaces it with a plastic baseplate?  all you gotta do is fill the portion of the mag which is too long with epoxy and then cut the spring to length.   they must be retarded!  And you can have mags shipped to you in parts.  There are always ways to get it done (legally) if you have enough money or know the right people.
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 07:26:41 PM »
Quote from: sliver on October 21, 2013, 07:17:43 PM

who in the hell blocks off a mag by cutting the bottom half off and replaces it with a plastic baseplate? 
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Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 07:44:00 PM »
Quote from: sliver on October 21, 2013, 07:17:43 PM

who in the hell blocks off a mag by cutting the bottom half off and replaces it with a plastic baseplate?  all you gotta do is fill the portion of the mag which is too long with epoxy and then cut the spring to length.   they must be retarded! 

The factory does that.

Many manufacturers ship their 10 round mags in the half plastic abomination variety.
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jaynick

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2013, 07:45:16 PM »
Quote from: sliver on October 21, 2013, 07:17:43 PM

who in the hell blocks off a mag by cutting the bottom half off and replaces it with a plastic baseplate?  all you gotta do is fill the portion of the mag which is too long with epoxy and then cut the spring to length.   they must be retarded!  And you can have mags shipped to you in parts.  There are always ways to get it done (legally) if you have enough money or know the right people.

it comes from the factory made that way.
they arent literally cut and glued in a ghetto fashion its just a shorter metal body and a tall baseplate instead of a extra long follower and a normal magazine body like a glock.

i included a picture of what im talking about. these are factory 10 round magazines. mecgar produces a lot of their limited capacity magazines like this.
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sliver

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2013, 02:17:02 AM »
Quote from: jaynick on October 21, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
it comes from the factory made that way.
they arent literally cut and glued in a ghetto fashion its just a shorter metal body and a tall baseplate instead of a extra long follower and a normal magazine body like a glock.

i included a picture of what im talking about. these are factory 10 round magazines. mecgar produces a lot of their limited capacity magazines like this.

I though this thread was about "Pistols only made with 15 round magazines"  not stock factory 10 round magazines
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Kingkeoni

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2013, 04:57:36 AM »
Quote from: sliver on October 21, 2013, 07:17:43 PM

who in the hell blocks off a mag by cutting the bottom half off and replaces it with a plastic baseplate?
 all you gotta do is fill the portion of the mag which is too long with epoxy and then cut the spring to length.
  this is the dumbest advice I've heard all day.

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jaynick

Re: Pistols only made with 15 round magazines
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2013, 07:56:20 AM »
Quote from: sliver on October 23, 2013, 02:17:02 AM
I though this thread was about "Pistols only made with 15 round magazines"  not stock factory 10 round magazines

uhh..well im giving him his two options
1. find a shop like xring or ogc to block the 15 rounders(with a piece of epoxied plexiglass to the bottom of the follower, not a glob of epoxy and cut spring  ::)) 
2. be stuck having to buy his own factory 10 round mags if he tells the online retailer to keep the 15 round mags.


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