Due to the rising cost of ammo I'm forced to change guns...

In other words, all the lead will come from China now and it will cost less.

Yea!!!

In other words, all the lead will come from China now and it will cost less.

Yea!!!

Lol! I hope so.

In other words, all the lead will come from China now and it will cost less.

Yea!!!

Only problem is the bullets will be contaminated with toy paint and baby food....

One of the few products from China that contains led and ISN'T a child's toy!

China practically owns us...more likely scenario is this which Obama seems to enjoy....

how cheaper when it has to go across the globe and back again, subject to tariffs and more taxes? 

sure sure joe, good price good price, best quality!  you pay now!

Isn't there any concern about national security if our ammo is produced outside the country?  Or are we just talking about buying lead?

Isn't there any concern about national security if our ammo is produced outside the country?  Or are we just talking about buying lead?

I read on other forums that the US has other suppliers but this one is the big one. Not sure if that's true or not but less and less things are getting manufactured in the US. This country sure isn't the country I knew as a youngster.

I read on other forums that the US has other suppliers but this one is the big one. Not sure if that's true or not but less and less things are getting manufactured in the US. This country sure isn't the country I knew as a youngster.

its because the "Enablers" say that we shouldn't have to do it for less ...interpret we can't work for $8.00 an hour so we just going collect government subsidies because its pays us  equivalent to $18.00 an hour for doing nothing at all but be douch bags kind of country. And oh don't forget to throw in obamacare for me on top... thanks and if we short on paying for it cause all the real employed Americans is already taxed up the yang we will just borrow it from china.

^^^^ +1.. Cheehoo!

its because the "Enablers" say that we shouldn't have to do it for less ...interpret we can't work for $8.00 an hour so we just going collect government subsidies because its pays us  equivalent to $18.00 an hour for doing nothing at all but be douch bags kind of country. And oh don't forget to throw in obamacare for me on top... thanks and if we short on paying for it cause all the real employed Americans is already taxed up the yang we will just borrow it from china.

That calls for a round of chicken!

its because the "Enablers" say that we shouldn't have to do it for less ...interpret we can't work for $8.00 an hour so we just going collect government subsidies because its pays us  equivalent to $18.00 an hour for doing nothing at all but be douch bags kind of country. And oh don't forget to throw in obamacare for me on top... thanks and if we short on paying for it cause all the real employed Americans is already taxed up the yang we will just borrow it from china.

how cheaper when it has to go across the globe and back again, subject to tariffs and more taxes? 

sure sure joe, good price good price, best quality!  you pay now!

Currently about 95% of all chains and nails that are sold in the U.S. are made in China.

Even after shipping, tariffs and whatever costs are associated with it, it still costs less to buy from China then produce in America.
They're not burdened with medical insurance, union wages, labor laws, unemployment insurance and all the other benefits that drive up manufacturing costs in America.

Isn't there any concern about national security if our ammo is produced outside the country?  Or are we just talking about buying lead?

Just lead.

Currently about 95% of all chains and nails that are sold in the U.S. are made in China.

Even after shipping, tariffs and whatever costs are associated with it, it still costs less to buy from China then produce in America.
They're not burdened with medical insurance, union wages, labor laws, unemployment insurance and all the other benefits that drive up manufacturing costs in America.

Just lead.

Add to that list the EPA, which is a major factor for this plant in the article closing. 

The EPA’s new clean air rules would require a $100 million dollar investment in new equipment.  As such, the Doe Run Company has decided to close the site.

The Republican candidates all warned of these new EPA rules during the last Presidential election.  Obama instructed the EPA to hold off on their new rules until after the election.  He didn't want the unemployment numbers associated with the changes to be reported during the campaign.   It didn't take very long for the effects to be seen.

China is a century behind the US in environmental to protect clean water and air.  The money they save now will cost them later, but the immediate effect is better global market competitiveness.

Like others said, China does not have the same enviromental regulations (which is what killed this plant), wages, safety regulations and many many more items. That is how it is cheaper to send a full ship to the U.S. and then send it back empty to China, then it is to make things here. But we wont really find out if it will carry over to this product as well until companies have to start ordering lead from other sources.


 

how cheaper when it has to go across the globe and back again, subject to tariffs and more taxes? 

Wow, crazy!  But makes sense in this twisted world.  We lose to China again (as a country).

Also read that lead is in primers too.  I don't know, somehow this is all going to screw us some how.  Keep buying when you can. 

But in regards to the epa I just saw a news report of china that its sooooo polluted that you can't even see your dog thru the smog at The end of the leash. They will suffocate soon enough soo would that mean we still gotta pay them for the loans?