16 words... (Read 3129 times)

macsak

16 words...
« on: November 01, 2013, 08:18:15 AM »
Remember George W. Bush’s “16 words” in his 2003 State of the Union address making the case for military action in Iraq? Sen. John Kerry charged that Bush “hoodwinked the American people.” Sen. Hillary Clinton said Bush “misled” the country. And Sen. Barack Obama accused the White House of “shading intelligence reports to support its case.”
 
Well, now it seems President Obama has his own 16 words to answer for: “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.” (Actually, it was a little more than 16 words if you include what the president said next:“Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obamas-16-words/2013/10/31/17b955ae-4227-11e3-a624-41d661b0bb78_story.html

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: 16 words...
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 09:28:32 AM »
Remember George W. Bush’s “16 words” in his 2003 State of the Union address making the case for military action in Iraq? Sen. John Kerry charged that Bush “hoodwinked the American people.” Sen. Hillary Clinton said Bush “misled” the country. And Sen. Barack Obama accused the White House of “shading intelligence reports to support its case.”
 
Well, now it seems President Obama has his own 16 words to answer for: “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.” (Actually, it was a little more than 16 words if you include what the president said next:“Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obamas-16-words/2013/10/31/17b955ae-4227-11e3-a624-41d661b0bb78_story.html

It's not like Obama KNEW it was a lie.  Nothing got snuck in to violate his pledge "you can keep it"!  People getting cancellation notices is all unexpected!  Blame the insurers!!

Speech from January 2010, before the ACA became "the law of the land."



Ummmm.......never mind!    :wacko:
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

macsak

Re: 16 words...
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 11:01:37 AM »
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

It's not like Obama KNEW it was a lie.  Nothing got snuck in to violate his pledge "you can keep it"!  People getting cancellation notices is all unexpected!  Blame the insurers!!

Speech from January 2010, before the ACA became "the law of the land."



Ummmm.......never mind!    :wacko:

macsak

Re: 16 words...
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 11:03:32 AM »
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It was Obama’s objective from the start to destroy the market in order to fund Obamacare. He wants these people to lose coverage so they have no choice but to sign up for the exchanges. Obama all but admitted this in his Boston speech. “If you’re getting one of these [cancellation] letters, just shop around in the new marketplace,” he declared. In other words, don’t worry if the plan you’re happy with is being cancelled, just join Obamacare! That was the plan all along.
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it's actually worse than this
my accountant told me that his small business clients that had HMSA are getting rate increases around $200 a month per person
so effectively, the insurance companies are using obamacare as an excuse to raise everyone's rates up to the connector rate
at which point the business has to decide whether to pay the same rate for their existing plan, or switch to the connector, for which they will get tax credits
so either way, the insurance companies get the same amount of income, and "they" can claim that the connector is successful because so many businesses are "choosing" to join when in fact they are basically forced to join

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

robtmc

Re: 16 words...
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2013, 05:36:27 PM »
now, now, must not upset the Obunghole voters on 2AHawaii by pointing out their messiah's many flaws.

After all, they said the 2A was not paramount and not all that important to their agenda, whatever that might be..... God knows what they were doing on 2AHawaii, other than gathering enemy info.

Spit..........