Use a firearm to defend yourself and potentially get expelled from school.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/09/us/gonzaga-guns/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


What would you do?

I was just thinking about this. When an organization denies you the right to defend yourself they should be held fully liable for ANY event that jeopardizes your safety. So what  does a university tell its unarmed students when faced in an encounter like that? Be sheep.

so unfair.

They might get expelled from school for defending themselves against a SIX time convicted felon. 

I risk my life every day in my job because I carry valuables and I cannot legally carry a weapon to protect myself because it is a felony to do so here in Hawaii.  What would I do in this case?  I'd get shot/stabbed like my government tells me to do so and possibly die as getting a felony would literally end my career as well as my life.  You live where you want and if you can't have a gun like the law says, you can't have a gun!  Face it, we elected these assholes and we now have to play by their rules just like how we elected Obama and now we have to live in this shit hole of a country.

sliver and others:

The Hawaiian Constitution regarding the right to keep and bear arms reads identically to the US Constitution's Amendment 2, which I hardly need to quote.

However, there was a Constitutional Convention of 1978 and election Nov 7, 1978, for which I can't seem to conveniently find details.  Was there a revision of Hawaii's RKBA at that time?

Terry, 230RN

I would look into hiring some big shot lawyer and file some sort of civil suit or law suit for millions of dollars on the grounds of not providing enough security in such apartment complex.

I would look into hiring some big shot lawyer and file some sort of civil suit or law suit for millions of dollars on the grounds of not providing enough security in such apartment complex.

Better yet, on the grounds of being able to have the tools to be able to defend yourself and not have to rely on others.

Guess the 12/6 dictum applies for me on this case.

I risk my life every day in my job because I carry valuables and I cannot legally carry a weapon to protect myself because it is a felony to do so here in Hawaii.  What would I do in this case?  I'd get shot/stabbed like my government tells me to do so and possibly die as getting a felony would literally end my career as well as my life.  You live where you want and if you can't have a gun like the law says, you can't have a gun!  Face it, we elected these assholes and we now have to play by their rules just like how we elected Obama and now we have to live in this shit hole of a country.

AND...

sliver and others:

The Hawaiian Constitution regarding the right to keep and bear arms reads identically to the US Constitution's Amendment 2, which I hardly need to quote.

However, there was a Constitutional Convention of 1978 and election Nov 7, 1978, for which I can't seem to conveniently find details.  Was there a revision of Hawaii's RKBA at that time?

Terry, 230RN

Nothing?

Gee whiz, you guys, don't you see that if your Constitution's RKBA verbiage is exactly the same as the U.S. Constitution's, the recent Supreme Court decisions (Heller, McDOnaold), which are forcing places like Chicago and Maryland to restructure their ownership and carry laws must also apply directly to your ownership and carry laws?

That's why I was asking about the Hawaiian Constitutional Convention I referred to.

Has that verbiage been modified?

Terry, 230RN