Big island snow (Read 7168 times)

FATMANWA

Big island snow
« on: November 12, 2013, 04:23:36 PM »
So one of the things I want to do before I transfer is see snow in Hawaii. Well the forecast calls for snow on Mauna Kea this week. I was wondering if anyone here has done this and how they went about doing it. Rental car? Guided tour? A website said the road is closed if there is any snow. How true is this? And if I get a rental, how easy of a drive is it? I am no stranger to lots of snow on paved roads. Thanks for any help you can give.

bass monkey

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2013, 06:06:26 PM »
Never been there for snow before, but have fun.

dustoff003

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2013, 07:12:31 PM »
Most rental car companies restrict you from even driving on Saddle Road and or Moana Kea Access Road. I have only flown up and by there I have never driven up Moana Kea. If I recall correctly there is a parking lot about half way up the Moana Kea Access Road where the observatory folks park and then they are shuttled the rest of the way to the Summit. My last time driving Saddle Road was maybe in 2008 the road has had major improvements and repairs since then.

I used da google for you this link should have some helpful info. enjoy!

http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/vis/visiting-mauna-kea/visiting-the-summit.html

JHanawahine

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2013, 07:20:13 PM »
drove up to visitor center.the road was closed to non 4wd vehicles jumped on a shuttle up to the top.think it was better because we could just hang out and enjoy the view.made a few stops goin up to take pics and get used to the elevation change

FATMANWA

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2013, 08:13:14 PM »
Was that today?

JHanawahine

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 08:17:57 PM »
Was that today?
no,was awhile ago.my friend owns a restaurant in parker ranch center.Me & the wife go up there every once in awhile

Haoleb

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2013, 08:27:58 PM »
I have been up when it snowed before. When I lived in Hilo every time there was snow you would see people driving back down saddle with pickups loaded with snow. They close the road if the conditions are not good but they re-open it when the road conditions allow.  You could probably check the webpage for the visitors center or call and get current conditions.

You need a 4wd  vehicle. Everytime I go up never fails there are people in cars. Pisses me off too because the whole road is washboarded because of people going up that do not follow the signs. Without a low range transfercase you will be riding the brakes the whole way back down.

Honestly, not really that exciting IMO. You're so high up and its so cold that it is really just kind of miserable. Not to mention the snow conditions suck. Its not like being on the mainland in a foot of fresh fallen snow when it is still coming down.  :thumbsup:

bass monkey

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2013, 10:05:43 PM »
The news said no snow yet.
Must also be scary playing in the snow with lava rocks underneath.

SOLEsource684

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2013, 11:02:29 PM »
I believe Harper Rentals allow their vehicles to be driven up to Mauna Kea. Lived in Hilo for 7 years now...still never went up to Mauna Kea. Haha I know  :wtf: right?

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Re: Big island snow
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 02:02:06 AM »
haoleb:

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I have been up when it snowed before. When I lived in Hilo every time there was snow you would see people driving back down saddle with pickups loaded with snow.

Holy mackerel !

Highly amusing to this Coloradan. :D

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FATMANWA

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2013, 07:02:06 AM »
Honestly, not really that exciting IMO. You're so high up and its so cold that it is really just kind of miserable. Not to mention the snow conditions suck. Its not like being on the mainland in a foot of fresh fallen snow when it is still coming down.  :thumbsup:

I want to go more for the novelty of it and I know it will be nothing like the mainlaind (only 3" predicted). I am also wanting to go to the cold, love cold weather and miss it dearly here. People think I am crazy for going on vacations during the winter. I just tell them 80 degrees and mostly sunny gets boring after a while.

FATMANWA

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 08:41:35 AM »
You need a 4wd  vehicle. Everytime I go up never fails there are people in cars. Pisses me off too because the whole road is washboarded because of people going up that do not follow the signs. Without a low range transfercase you will be riding the brakes the whole way back down.

Also, do NEED 4wd with a low transfer case? I have been on many steep roads and just lowed low gear on a two-wheel drive auto tranny, works just fine for me.

Surf

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2013, 08:42:41 AM »
My father retired from CFHT and I visited the summit on more than one occasion.  Easy but winding drive on saddle road.  Hit the turn off and see cows.  Mauna kea access road is about 8-10 miles long.  Head up to about 9000ft and hit the visitor center.  Trinkits, displays, snacks, bathrooms, etc...Just up from the visitor center is another facility for employees.  Many employees live at this base camp throughout the week.  My father lived up there during the week.  It is tough to acclimatize on a daily basis to the 14K ft summit.  Had his own private lodging and his own company 4wd SUV.  4x4 is highly suggested, but not enforced.  The gravel road is pretty well maintained and about 4-5 miles from the visitor center to the summit.  It is very steep in some sections and very winding.  There are no guard rails and steep drops of hundreds of feet.  The drive can be spooky depending on conditions and traffic.  My dad drove it daily during the week and it scared the crap out of me the pace he drove it, like no big deal.  The road has seen more than its share of casualties.   I will say that I grew up skiing at anywhere from 8-12K feet and I will say that despite having a lot of mountainous experience, I was always gassed up at the telescope.  I walked up to the upper deck ring of the telescope building (about 4 stories) and I felt like my legs were rocks, I was dizzy and felt like losing my lunch.  When we are at my parents place, we always see the snow on the mountain when it gets snow.  I used to spend xmas up there until 5 years ago, but now I have to be on Oahu around Xmas thru New Years and don't get up to the Big Island during the winter time.  Been meaning to take my kids up there also someday.   

gtfour43

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2013, 09:42:13 AM »
Went up Mauna Kea in march when it was snowing back in 2003. Was snowing pretty good while we were up there. Theres a plaque on one of the peaks saying the elevation your at. IIRC its the highest spot in Hawaii.  4WD is required to drive to the top but we didnt need it that day. GL :shaka:

Haoleb

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2013, 03:15:35 PM »
Also, do NEED 4wd with a low transfer case? I have been on many steep roads and just lowed low gear on a two-wheel drive auto tranny, works just fine for me.

Like i said, you could make go up in a mustang if you wanted to, and many people do. But even if you get one of those "4wd" vehicles that do not have a real lowrange transfercase I would at least keep it in as low of gear as you can to keep from riding the brakes. Most people do not know how to use their 4wd anyway and probably never think to use low range. I use it to go and just because its easier on the engine since horsepower is decreased quite a bit at that elevation. And on the way down so that I don't need to use the brakes.

FATMANWA

Re: Big island snow
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2013, 08:10:02 AM »
well I went up the mountain yesterday, no snow on the ground  :( and the people at the visitor center said it did snow for a bit about an hour before I got there. I rented a Jeep just in case, but I feel that you do not need a 4x4 to go up or down the  mountian, unless there is a chance for bad weather (like when I went). Hopefully it will snow on a weekend and maybe I can take a day trip next time. Thanks for all the info!

Oh, and if anyone wants a great place to stay, I recomend the Lilikoi Inn. This is the second time I have stayed there and it cost $150 for the local rate. You get a great breakfast (it is a B and B) made from food they grow right there in their yard. Great place and a way better deal than any hotel.