*THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like (Read 6430 times)

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

*THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« on: November 21, 2013, 01:00:35 PM »
Obama Statement On Senate Passing Nuclear Option



Here is what Reid said in 2008 on the subject:

"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 01:03:14 PM »
Maybe the problem isn't with the process, but with the Liberal Ideologues being appointed to all these positions?  Try picking a balanced cabinet/judiciary and the problem will correct itself!!
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

punaperson

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 02:10:32 PM »
Using Mr. Obama's logic, one ought to overturn the requirements for Constitutional Amendments to become a simple majority vote. Why require 2/3 votes in the Senate and House, much less ratification by 3/4 of the states, when a simple majority reflects the views of Americans (according to Mr. Obama)? Since it is well known (according to Obama, Schumer, Feinstein, et. al.) that 90% of Americans, even members of the NRA (they claim, without having any access to NRA membership roles so as to actually know who belongs to the NRA), favor universal background checks with record-keeping, and a majority favor banning "military-style assault weapons", we could do away entirely with that outdated pesky Second Amendment in short order by simple majority votes at each stage.

I'd be willing to bet that Reid, Schumer, et. al. have discussed this topic in the past. Well, maybe not: They do begin each tirade for "common sense gun safety laws" by stating that they support the Second Amendment. [Insert profanity of your choice here.]

Garuda

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 07:38:29 AM »
And the slow erosion continues with no meaningful reaction to the action     :-\

punaperson

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2013, 09:44:45 AM »
And the slow erosion continues with no meaningful reaction to the action     :-\
Garuda, as a person myself who is totally frustrated by my apparent inability to do anything that really makes a difference in these matters, I'm wondering what you would view as "meaningful reaction". I'm open to at least listening to all suggestions. Thanks.  :shaka:

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2013, 10:59:47 AM »
Garuda, as a person myself who is totally frustrated by my apparent inability to do anything that really makes a difference in these matters, I'm wondering what you would view as "meaningful reaction". I'm open to at least listening to all suggestions. Thanks.  :shaka:

Meaningful ACTION to me would be a bill which makes it more difficult to enact legislation restricting (infringing) on an inalienable, natural, God-given, Constitutional right than, say, raising the rates for parking meters.

I think the same restrictions that apply to passing an amendment to the Constitution should apply to enacting laws which restrict those freedoms.  If the restrictions are truly "common sense" and supported by "90% of Americans," as the anti-gun politicians claim, then getting a 2/3 majority vote won't be a problem.
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Jl808

*THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2013, 11:23:23 AM »
What about their concerned constituents going to their office and having a q&a with them.

Ask them why they are doing this?  Ask them to explain their position first then after they are done, give them the facts.

Maybe show up with a cameraman and record the whole conversation.

Expose them for the lying sobs they are.
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Garuda

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2013, 03:44:11 PM »
Garuda, as a person myself who is totally frustrated by my apparent inability to do anything that really makes a difference in these matters, I'm wondering what you would view as "meaningful reaction". I'm open to at least listening to all suggestions. Thanks.  :shaka:

I'm frustrated like you.  Peaceful protesting is a start.  Why haven't we seen massive amounts of Americans (70% of the population or more), young and old of all backgrounds flooding their state legislatures, capitols, DC?  The sheer amount of people alone would cause elected officials to take notice and reevaluate their voting record.  "Does it align with the constitution or does it not?  I think it should be as simple as that.

Hi, we are here.  We are watching.  Do what you are supposed to do.  Nothing more, nothing less. 

I do believe that liberty is being attacked on all fronts already.  Legally, constitutionally, physically, mentally.  On a federal level, individual state level, hell even the next generation is being programmed.  Given that,  why aren't their protests  featuring the majority of the population? 

I'm all for peaceful protesting.  Sheer numbers makes a statement.  Sadly those sheer numbers are really, really lacking.   

I've seen thousands of Egyptians on the news protesting against Morsi and Barry.  I haven't seen thousands of Americans.  Why not?  Life too good here and all are brainwashed?  Okay I can lose this, I can lose that......before you know it, you lose it all. 

« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 03:50:05 PM by Garuda »

Garuda

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 03:47:03 PM »
What about their concerned constituents going to their office and having a q&a with them.

Ask them why they are doing this?  Ask them to explain their position first then after they are done, give them the facts.

Maybe show up with a cameraman and record the whole conversation.

Expose them for the lying sobs they are.

Great idea,  but what mainstream media will promote said video to put the message out there?  Not calling you out, just pointing out another part of the problem.

Jl808

*THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 03:53:33 PM »
You're right. It won't be on MSM.

It could always go on YouTube and Facebook.

It would also be good material come election time.  Perhaps their opponent could use it in a political ad exposing their lies.
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

Garuda

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2013, 04:16:55 PM »
I prefer stuff like this.  Especially if this guy is going to run. Plaster this ad everywhere

Jl808

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 05:44:34 PM »
I like that idea. But perhaps with a different message. Lol.
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

punaperson

Re: *THIS* is What Tyranny Sounds Like
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 08:30:22 PM »
I prefer stuff like this.  Especially if this guy is going to run. Plaster this ad everywhere
That's pretty funny seeing Christie 18 years and 200 pounds ago... glad he lost that one... one can only hope his future holds more defeats. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fellow.