2 incidents reported yesterday:
One hit a house
One hit a vehicle

edit- sorry i was posting from my phone
post is correct now

WTH planning and permit can happen Monday morning...

Or 3 month wait like normal permitting?

2 incidents in October
One in May at sandy beach on vehicle

Yesterday's report at house only reported yesterday because homeowners were on vacation

Cameraman is a friend of a friend
Girl in pink is Vanessa Stewart

Mayor says we need to work on keeping range maintained

Have Hammer and Shovel.  Will travel.   

Town hall meeting with mayor kaiser high Tuesday 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm
December 10, 2013

Parks department to get materials and labor to create eyebrow soon

Does this affect Sillhouette side too, or can they reopen, since they "weren't closed down", but Carl just decided to close?

Guys
Time to act
I'll make a separate post
I got the parks director to ask the mayor if we can do a range cleanup day since the rifle range is closed
Mayor said ok
Press liaison said he'll get media coverage
Time to act, folks
We need to prove as a community that we are not "gun nuts"
Mike from the range will coordinate and let us know

2 incidents in October
One in May at sandy beach on vehicle

Yesterday's report at house only reported yesterday because homeowners were on vacation

so the one at sandy's was found to be a bullet from the range? nothing was reported on this.

When you've got lemons, why not make lemonade?

If they are going to shut the rifle range down for an indefinite period of time, find out if they will at least open it up for use as an airgun range for the timebeing. I've got a bunch of air rifles and pistols that I can't shoot in my neighborhood because of space restrictions and it would be a great opportunity to get out and teach the kids proper rules of handling firearms.

Just a thought.

so the one at sandy's was found to be a bullet from the range? nothing was reported on this.

obviously was not found to be a bullet
Press coverage at the time said that the owner was going to retrieve and give to police
If it was really a bullet, there would've been even more coverage
If it wasn't, there wouldn't be a retraction
Therefore I conclude that it was never produced

Guys
Time to act
I'll make a separate post
I got the parks director to ask the mayor if we can do a range cleanup day since the rifle range is closed
Mayor said ok
Press liaison said he'll get media coverage
Time to act, folks
We need to prove as a community that we are not "gun nuts"
Mike from the range will coordinate and let us know

You the man mac.

Town hall meeting with mayor kaiser high Tuesday 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm
December 10, 2013

Listen all, we need to turn this situation in to a positive The Mayor seems to be a strong supporter of the sport shooting community based on his comments ion his press release regarding this announcement.  I know the Mayor and he's a man of his word. No one likes to be attacked or chastised especially at a public forum so when the subject of the KHSC comes up at the meeting that will be the time to thoughtfully and respectfully layout our concerns about the disrepair of the facility, especially the bathrooms, burns, target distances safety issues etc. and the fact the we have been neglected by previous administrations for years and years.  He saw the range so he knows exactly what we're talking about.  This incident is a blessing in disguise.  The city's response to this incident will now force them to expedite the process and repairs ( or renovations)
The Mayor knows that the 2a community are strong voters and he won't disregard us and look at us as "crazies"  So let's take advantage of what seems like a negative issue and use this to our advantage.  We cannot go in with a gang mentality.  We need an articulate, respected and coolheaded spokesperson to represent all of us and plead our case.  I don't all of you but I see those of you who advocate strongly on our behalf, which I truly appreciate so choose one amoungst you and go for it please.  This is a huge opportunity!!  Mahalo

obviously was not found to be a bullet
Press coverage at the time said that the owner was going to retrieve and give to police
If it was really a bullet, there would've been even more coverage
If it wasn't, there wouldn't be a retraction
Therefore I conclude that it was never produced

Exactly.  Too many of us would have caught the slightest mention if something had been found.

The deafening silence says it all...............

... This is a huge opportunity!!  Mahalo

I think we all hope you are right.   I think if I had seen a line item in the budget for "range improvements", I might be less suspicious and more celebratory.  But city projects tend to really drag out and this is a very anti-2A state.  So, for me it's "Hope for best and work hard to prevent the worst".

Listen all, we need to turn this situation in to a positive The Mayor seems to be a strong supporter of the sport shooting community based on his comments ion his press release regarding this announcement.  I know the Mayor and he's a man of his word. No one likes to be attacked or chastised especially at a public forum so when the subject of the KHSC comes up at the meeting that will be the time to thoughtfully and respectfully layout our concerns about the disrepair of the facility, especially the bathrooms, burns, target distances safety issues etc. and the fact the we have been neglected by previous administrations for years and years.  He saw the range so he knows exactly what we're talking about.  This incident is a blessing in disguise.  The city's response to this incident will now force them to expedite the process and repairs ( or renovations)
The Mayor knows that the 2a community are strong voters and he won't disregard us and look at us as "crazies"  So let's take advantage of what seems like a negative issue and use this to our advantage.  We cannot go in with a gang mentality.  We need an articulate, respected and coolheaded spokesperson to represent all of us and plead our case.  I don't all of you but I see those of you who advocate strongly on our behalf, which I truly appreciate so choose one amoungst you and go for it please.  This is a huge opportunity!!  Mahalo

yup
i made sure to thank the mayor for his support
we have to take what he says and what the parks director say at face value until proven otherwise
i did let her know that we heard his promises, and are watching to see if he follows up on them

For making range repairs to happen, we need to contact our city council members also as they will be approving budgets.  The mayor is somewhat strapped because he already has a budget shortfall to figure out.

Also, what about contacting the guy who presented range improvements during the HK neighborhood board meeting?  I wonder if anything resulted from his presentation?

macsak, I'm all for volunteering to clean up the range.  Someone set a date.  If it's not too soon, I can block the whole day off on my calendar.

I think we all hope you are right.   I think if I had seen a line item in the budget for "range improvements", I might be less suspicious and more celebratory.  But city projects tend to really drag out and this is a very anti-2A state.  So, for me it's "Hope for best and work hard to prevent the worst".

parks director and mayor said that the emergency repairs don't have to be a budget item
must be some sort of contingency fund for this
said no need EPA stuff, because they are adding to the berm, not digging it up
sounds like they want to add on a bunch of soil to make the berm "softer" to prevent the possibilities of ricochet
the "eyebrows" the are referring to are not to block bullets
they are "a visual reminder" to keep your barrel pointed downrange rather than at the sky

said that material and equipment are already on hand to use, so it can be done quickly

For making range repairs to happen, we need to contact our city council members also as they will be approving budgets.  The mayor is somewhat strapped because he already has a budget shortfall to figure out.

Also, what about contacting the guy who presented range improvements during the HK neighborhood board meeting?  I wonder if anything resulted from his presentation?

macsak, I'm all for volunteering to clean up the range.  Someone set a date.  If it's not too soon, I can block the whole day off on my calendar.

i got the business card of the parks director
am already in contact with mike via email for the HDF range days
i will be following up with both of them on monday

You the man mac.

i do what i can
i appreciate the at least 15-20 2aHI guys that showed up, especially 1911, who brought his kids
the mayor saw them and talked to them, so that helped
and you should've seen all the guys come when i told them the parks director was looking for commitment for a work day
i walked over to the bench and asked them, and 6 or 8 of our guys walked up to her and said they are in
i recruited someone else who walked up with his wife/girlfriend and asked mike if there was something he could do
he pointed at me, and i said just read 2ahawaii.com and show up

if this happens, we need contact with hra/life, and all the other groups to get as many people there as possible
we are all going to need to spread the word
i told mike and the parks director, if we have permission, we should take advantage before someone thinks otherwise
mike said he has been asked by many people to help, but always has to turn them down due to liability