Curious if anyone has considered inviting Knudsen to shoot?  Maybe the next Shooting Fair, or just a regular day to try a variety of rifles (since they are easier to hit the target for beginners = more fun)? 

I know the KH range is closed for rifles, but there are options.

I remember when Piers Morgan went to a range and loved the heck out of it.  He initialy said it made no impact on his views, but the next few months, his rhetoric softened quite a bit on gun control because, I believe, he no longer thought of gun people as "those obsessed nuts who just want to kill animals and people."  Maybe Knudsen needs to experience the range with all of the safety rules, RSO oversight, and the thrill of making a hole 50 - 100 yards away within an inch of where he's aiming?

If he is waiting for someone to "educate" him and won't make the effort himself, maybe someone should make that effort.  What could it hurt??

And, if you have him try a Mosin, recommend a limb saver pad so he doesn't accuse anyone of intentionally hurting his shoulder! 

Remeber this from our old friend vooduchikn......  lol



http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsP4NMoJcFd4

.

I find it odd that Queens Gate was completed in the mid 80's, the botanical garden, golf course and stable over the ridge has been there even longer .... But only now it rains bullets.

.

Curious if anyone has considered inviting Knudsen to shoot?  Maybe the next Shooting Fair, or just a regular day to try a variety of rifles (since they are easier to hit the target for beginners = more fun)? 

I know the KH range is closed for rifles, but there are options.

I remember when Piers Morgan went to a range and loved the heck out of it.  He initialy said it made no impact on his views, but the next few months, his rhetoric softened quite a bit on gun control because, I believe, he no longer thought of gun people as "those obsessed nuts who just want to kill animals and people."  Maybe Knudsen needs to experience the range with all of the safety rules, RSO oversight, and the thrill of making a hole 50 - 100 yards away within an inch of where he's aiming?

If he is waiting for someone to "educate" him and won't make the effort himself, maybe someone should make that effort.  What could it hurt??

And, if you have him try a Mosin, recommend a limb saver pad so he doesn't accuse anyone of intentionally hurting his shoulder! 

With hicarry's approval, I invited all of the neighborhood board members and Sam slom and gene ward to take a life handgun safety class for free

Was quite cool to see the 2A folks out there as well... I have to apologize for being very discrete, small kine hooky and wanted to stay well clear of the cameras

I too liked what the Mayor had to say, sounds quite positive.   However, did you catch what Knudsen had to say on KHON:

"It could be fairly extensive and expensive so they'll have to find the money they'll have to comply with environmental rules because the soil is contaminated with lead and arsenic,"

So there you have it, he's showing his true colors yet again.   He wants to make sure all the rules & regs are followed in this case yet backs trespassing on a trail that's actually off-limits (and has admitted doing so himself).   Frustrating to say the least.

Ahui hou 

Boomah

Maybe we can somehow get KHSC declared a Hawaii Historical Landmark, as it has been around for so long.

It's a lot harder to get something shut down when it is declared of historical significance; might even get extra funding for maintenance as well.

What's the real answer there... **Update/Edit** NM actually read the info vs. skimming it.   Regardless, I still wonder if any WWII units ever used the range prior to 1950?   I do know some folks that may help in protecting the range if it can be tied to Pearl Harbor or the PTO in some way.   Maybe the Guard can speak out as it's a part of their history as well...

Boomah 

To everyone that showed up today... BIG MAHALO'S

Credit to mayor macsak     

.

To everyone that showed up today... BIG MAHALO'S

Credit to mayor macsak     

i'm closer to mayor mccheese than i am mayor macsak

.

BTW: Enjoy the following.

And whoever it is in the first photo : you are a fucking idiot and deserve to be banned from the range for doing idiotic shit like this. Its because of people like this that we can't have nice things.

Bummer.  Not looking good for Kokohead.  Good luck guys!

Looks like someone practicing for a service match, something done for years at KHSC without issue I might add, during happier times of course.   Unfortunately dick-weed was there with his camera as the shooter was shouldering the rifle and snapped an image of that brief moment .   Low situational awareness, especially if he (and the spotter) noticed Mr. Knudsen snapping pics, but idiot?   A bit strong IMHO, maybe they didn't see the shutter-bug.   But again, as Q pointed, not helping the cause and definitely reinforcing opinions of the ignorant.

One team, one fight 

Boomah

 

BTW: Enjoy the following.

And whoever it is in the first photo : you are a fucking idiot and deserve to be banned from the range for doing idiotic shit like this. Its because of people like this that we can't have nice things.

those are proper aiming stances for shouldering a rifle from the standing position. the safeties shouldn't even be off until completely in position. that picture is nothing but fear mongering and using lack of education to push his agenda.

Looks like someone practicing for a service match, something done for years at KHSC without issue I might add, during happier times of course.   Unfortunately dick-weed was there with his camera as the shooter was shouldering the rifle and snapped an image of that brief moment .   Low situational awareness, especially if he (and the spotter) noticed Mr. Knudsen snapping pics, but idiot?   A bit strong IMHO, maybe they didn't see the shutter-bug.   But again, as Q pointed, not helping the cause and definitely reinforcing opinions of the ignorant.

One team, one fight 

Boomah

What's interesting is that, in either of those photos, the rifles aren't even close to being angled high enough to clear the right side (lower side) of Koko crater ridge 1000 meters away.

Ahh i guess I didn't make the cut oh KHON. Oh well.

those are proper aiming stances for shouldering a rifle from the standing position. the safeties shouldn't even be off until completely in position. that picture is nothing but fear mongering and using lack of education to push his agenda.

yeah, i agree
both are proper shooting stances
this is the first time i am seeing these pics
knudsen is claiming they are in "high ready"
this is certainly NOT high ready
in the second picture, the shooter's finger is nowhere near the trigger

those are proper aiming stances for shouldering a rifle from the standing position. the safeties shouldn't even be off until completely in position. that picture is nothing but fear mongering and using lack of education to push his agenda.

Exactly .... Anyone who has ever shot three position competition matches know that that's how you set in to a standing position.