22LR Upper or 22LR conversion? (Read 12058 times)

Jl808

22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« on: December 09, 2013, 10:01:41 AM »
Was wondering....

Is it better to get a 22LR upper or a 22LR conversion kit for plinking practice?

Would a 22LR conversion kit would be more humbug to install/switch out?  Is it prone to failures?

Would a 22LR upper be more reliable?  The only downside I see to this is that it is one more thing to bring to the range.

Or is it better to just buy a complete 22LR since they are not too expensive anyway?

What are your thoughts / experience with this?
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sliver

Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 11:17:39 AM »
 a complete 22LR upper would be more accurate and less trouble.  a bit more expensive but it depends on what you want to do with it.  if you want to practice drills, the 22LR conversion kit would be cheaper as you don't need the accuracy but if you wanna plink and be some what accurate, get the entire upper. 

Jl808

Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 11:36:03 AM »
Sounds like a dedicated upper would be better overall.  Thanks, sliver!
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 12:52:52 PM »
I recommend highly CMMG uppers or conversion pieces.
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 01:34:48 PM »
22lr conversion. More room in safe. Same ergonomics. Same trigger pull. Cheaper. get the redi mag better mag adapter s&w 22lr adapter which lets you use the m&p 15-22 mags. You also have bolt hold open on last round and stays open when mag is dropped. Same manual of arms as your ar.

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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 07:18:35 PM »
I got a 15-22 and think it's great. No regrets.  I've never tried a bolt kit or just a 22lr upper. Hope that helps a little at least  lol

Jl808

Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 07:45:11 PM »

22lr conversion. More room in safe. Same ergonomics. Same trigger pull. Cheaper. get the redi mag better mag adapter s&w 22lr adapter which lets you use the m&p 15-22 mags. You also have bolt hold open on last round and stays open when mag is dropped. Same manual of arms as your ar.

djsmiles808 -- the reasons you list are actually very appealing.  Does the different barrel twist and caliber of the 223 barrel become an issue? 
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 07:46:37 PM »

I recommend highly CMMG uppers or conversion pieces.

Thanks Speedtek. The CMMGs seem to have very good reviews.
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 01:43:42 AM »
Tried a drop-in conversion and didn't like it.  Failures just about every other round, shooting it both dry and wet.  If you're not using plated bullets, you'll be fouling your barrel with lead.

Just about all uppers don't hold the bolt back on reload (they'll hold the bolt back on the last round, but it goes shut once the magazine is removed).

I can't believe I waited this long to get an M&P15-22.  Works exactly like my AR, with a few additions, looks exactly like my AR, and is just as fun (if not more fun…I'm spending less!) as my AR.  I was iffy when I first paid for it, but now I have absolutely no regrets…well, other than not buying it earlier!
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 02:36:41 AM »
Tried a drop-in conversion and didn't like it.  Failures just about every other round, shooting it both dry and wet.  If you're not using plated bullets, you'll be fouling your barrel with lead.

Just about all uppers don't hold the bolt back on reload (they'll hold the bolt back on the last round, but it goes shut once the magazine is removed).

I can't believe I waited this long to get an M&P15-22.  Works exactly like my AR, with a few additions, looks exactly like my AR, and is just as fun (if not more fun…I'm spending less!) as my AR.  I was iffy when I first paid for it, but now I have absolutely no regrets…well, other than not buying it earlier!

was it hard to find more .22lr mags for your upper?  how much do they cost?

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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 02:56:35 AM »
was it hard to find more .22lr mags for your upper?  how much do they cost?

Never bought an upper.  I searched for one I wanted, but none held the bolt back through a reload.
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 03:15:56 AM »
Never bought an upper.  I searched for one I wanted, but none held the bolt back through a reload.

opps, I meant was it hard to find mags for your M&P15-22?

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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 05:47:23 AM »

opps, I meant was it hard to find mags for your M&P15-22?
it's getting easier to get M&P 15-22 mags nowadays. Easier to find than before.

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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 06:27:59 AM »
Many places online has them available online. (If you want to save a few bucks)
OGC had them last time I visited. (If you want to buy local)
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 07:36:14 AM »
Compass Lake, Accuracy Speaks, White Oak Armament will build one. All welll known smiths who know their way around ARs
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2013, 03:50:59 PM »
those with .22lr ar15's, do you guys use bulk/lead rounds in your rifles?  I've seen CCI .22lr go for 12-13 bucks for a box of 50 locally.  If you reload .223/5.56, it seems like the price is the same if not cheaper if you need to use plated/high velocity .22lr for the rifles to run reliably. 

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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 04:46:37 PM »
Here my input

For my need I bought the 22lr conversion kit instead of another upper/ or another rifle due to my main means of transportation is on a motorcycle.

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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 05:19:04 PM »
Have both and several converting kits, but find that the Air Force conversion better.
Uses conventional magazine bodies w/22 inserts.

ren

Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 05:57:37 PM »
those with .22lr ar15's, do you guys use bulk/lead rounds in your rifles?  I've seen CCI .22lr go for 12-13 bucks for a box of 50 locally.  If you reload .223/5.56, it seems like the price is the same if not cheaper if you need to use plated/high velocity .22lr for the rifles to run reliably.
For accuracy, no. My CLE upper likes standard velocity ammo such as SK standard, Eley (purple box), Wolf Match etc.
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Re: 22LR Upper or 22LR conversion?
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2013, 07:05:19 PM »
those with .22lr ar15's, do you guys use bulk/lead rounds in your rifles?  I've seen CCI .22lr go for 12-13 bucks for a box of 50 locally.  If you reload .223/5.56, it seems like the price is the same if not cheaper if you need to use plated/high velocity .22lr for the rifles to run reliably.

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