Help with Gun Broker (Read 6794 times)

myanmar1

Help with Gun Broker
« on: December 11, 2013, 07:49:25 PM »
 Can someone walk me through the process of purchasing a pistol from GB? I understand the auction thing. What i need help with is after auction is done.
What now?
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” — Benjamin Franklin

sliver

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 07:56:28 PM »
contact your ffl and tell him you just bought a gun and to expect it, then email the seller your ffl info so he can ship it to them (via their ffl) and pay him/her, go down to hpd and get a permit to buy the handgun, wait for 2 weeks after your gun comes in and go reg it with hpd. 

careful on how you pay the seller, don't use paypal unless its for gun parts and don't send cash/money order/cashiers check!  try to use some kinda escrow service or credit card.

Escrow Service

For the ultimate in safety when making your purchase, you should consider using an online escrow service. An escrow service holds the buyer's money until the buyer receives and inspects the item. Once the item is inspected, payment is released to the seller. If there is a problem with the item, the buyer can reject the item and return it to the seller. Upon receipt of the item by the seller, the buyer's money will be refunded.

Many escrow services will not handle firearm transactions. Here is a (very) short list of escrow services that are known to handle firearm transactions:

Tradiator.com: When Escrow is used, payment is sent to Tradiator instead of the Seller, to hold until the buyer receives the item and is satisfied with it. Also offers auction dispute resolution and mediation services. Click here to visit the Tradiator Web site.

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Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 08:03:43 PM »
Can someone walk me through the process of purchasing a pistol from GB? I understand the auction thing. What i need help with is after auction is done.
What now?

After you won the auction you need to pay (just note most won't accept PayPal due to their anti gun bs). Then you will need to give them the ffl of your choice here on isle, inform your ffl what you bought and who you brought from so they can send them their dealer ffl license #.  Then once they received all that info they should ship out your pistol to the ffl. Once the gun arrives you will go down and fill out the paperwork, get the receipt and info on the gun take it to hpd for your permit to acquire. After 2 weeks go back to hpd get the permit to acquire, go back to the shop show them the permit, then head back to hpd and register the gun ... Someone jump in if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2013, 08:10:28 PM by Scar16 »

JHanawahine

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 08:11:02 PM »

myanmar1

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 08:40:59 PM »
Thanks for the help. Was wondering if i can do the FFL info by phone or E-mail due to a hectic work schedule.
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” — Benjamin Franklin

Kingkeoni

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 08:45:16 PM »
Best advice is: Don't buy from sellers with zero feedback.

Buy from sellers with many transactions.

Don't fear sending a postal money order.

In order for someone to register as a seller, they have to have a valid credit card on file. Their address must verify as their billing address.

If you send a postal money order and the seller tries to screw you, he just committed a federal crime by cashing the U.S.P.S. money order.

Make sure you send the money order to him via U.S. postal service as well, so they can add mail fraud to the charges, when the federal government goes knocking down his door.

I've bought and sold hundreds of "items" through gunbroker and have never had 1 single problem, as long as I've followed these simple rules.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Kingkeoni

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 08:46:18 PM »
Thanks for the help. Was wondering if i can do the FFL info by phone or E-mail due to a hectic work schedule.

Email is fine with most sellers.

Only the old ancient sellers want a hard copy mailed to them. (Not very common)
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 08:59:06 PM »
Thanks for the help. Was wondering if i can do the FFL info by phone or E-mail due to a hectic work schedule.

Who is your FFL here?  I used OGC.  Their process was:

(1)  I sent OGC an email with:
        my name, phone and email
        the seller's/FFL name, phone and email
        what kind of gun I bought
        Email Subject line was FFL REQUEST

Instructions are at http://ogctactical.3dcartstores.com/FFL-Transfer-Instructions_c_62.html

(2)  OGC then emailed a signed copy of their FFL to the seller/FFL
       OGC has to either email or fax a newly signed copy of their FFL for each new seller they do business with

(3)  The seller mailed the gun to OGC. 
       I had already given the seller OGC's shipping address PRIOR TO BIDDING to get a shipping cost estimate to Hawaii.

(4)  OGC called me the day they received the gun.

(5)  I drove to OGC and inspected the gun. 
       I was given a 3-day inspection period by the seller. 
       If I found problems, they would then accept a return/refund request.

(6)  OGC gave me the standard receipt with all the information I needed, and I applied for the permit.

(7)  Two weeks later:
        I picked up the permit,
        I picked up the gun, and
        I registered it.

Hope that helps.
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

myanmar1

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 09:13:26 PM »
Thanks KK, DJT. Thats what i wanted to know. :shaka:
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” — Benjamin Franklin

one2boost

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2013, 06:34:41 AM »
Great, now I will have another hole in my wallet.  I have been avoiding GB because I did not know how to go about purchasing various items.

Thanks for the info, I will be registering soon.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 10:22:33 AM »
One other detail:  you cannot ask the seller for the information about the gun, then run to HPD to start the permit application/waiting period sooner.  The pistol must be in the hands of your local FFL for you to apply.

I asked the officers at the HPD firearms section this exact question, and they said you have to do things in the right order, or it slows down their process.  Your Hawaii FFL has to fax paperwork to HPD when your gun is delivered.  If that paperwork is missing, they can't process the permit application.

That's their story, and they're sticking to it!
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Kingkeoni

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2013, 05:43:39 AM »
One other detail:  you cannot ask the seller for the information about the gun, then run to HPD to start the permit application/waiting period sooner.  The pistol must be in the hands of your local FFL for you to apply.

I asked the officers at the HPD firearms section this exact question, and they said you have to do things in the right order, or it slows down their process.  Your Hawaii FFL has to fax paperwork to HPD when your gun is delivered.  If that paperwork is missing, they can't process the permit application.

That's their story, and they're sticking to it!

This is actually not true.

I do it all the time.

Whenever I order a pistol from gunbroker, I go down and apply for the permit to acquire.

A week later it shows up at the FFL and they register it as their inventory.

I pick it up exactly 14 days from when I applied.

It saves me about a week every time.



Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Help with Gun Broker
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2013, 12:47:25 PM »
This is actually not true.

I do it all the time.

Whenever I order a pistol from gunbroker, I go down and apply for the permit to acquire.

A week later it shows up at the FFL and they register it as their inventory.

I pick it up exactly 14 days from when I applied.

It saves me about a week every time.

I'm reporting what the HPD firearms section officer told me.  If reality isn't the same as the official HPD policy ...



I'm shocked!!

"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis