Do any of you folks know where I can find the actual law prohibiting home FFLs here in Hawaii? I can’t find anything. I am looking for a loop hole/ possible expiration. Thank you!



-Rico

I think it's in the zoning requirements.  Call / contact permitting - it's a city thing.

I think it's in the zoning requirements.  Call / contact permitting - it's a city thing.

oh
i thought it was a federal thing
needing a storefront, etc

It's a federal thing requiring a store front.

All home FFL's are grandfathered in. If the miss the renewal
There is no mercy.

I don’t think it is a Federal issue... Other folks have obtained their FFLs from home recently, I was about to do mine in Virginia but ran out of time, I had to PCS here. Checkout FFL123.com I was also told by an ATF agent here that if you could get approval from a self storage business that you’re good to go but, I haven’t been lucky with the storage unit and say forget the unit, I want to find a loop hole and do it from home.

Good luck.
 

It's all about local zoning.
Even on the mainland each county has different zoning.
Some counties are so noticeable that on one side of the road it's packed with strip malls and the other side is dead because of the county line.

Prohibiting home FFLs in Hawaii were passed in the 80's be hide closed doors with no hearing or debate. The AG and speaker of the house passed the bill overnight.
It prohibites FFL in residential zoned areas. Only commercial and industrial area are permitted .

Al Mongeon is the only grandfathed dealer with a home based FFL. His state tax certificate expires each Year, and must be renewed to countinue in his current location.

Al not the only one......

Below is the link for current Hawaii licenses as of July 2013. Note that the ATF does not publish or provide information on 03 FFL holders like they do on 01 FFls. The reason that Type 03 FFLs are not on EZ-Check is because your licensed premise is virtually always your home and that information should not be made public. Even the ATFs EZ Check site notes that you cannot validate an 03 FFL. The way to validate is call the local BATF office and ask them to verify the current status of a 03 FFL.

Number of licenses and type as of July 2013:
PA: 2
01: 126
03: 166
06: 3
07: 11
08: 1

Just scroll to Hawaii, July and XLS format for listing.
https://www.atf.gov/content/statistics-listing-federal-firearms-licensees

Al not the only one......

yup
i've met one before

126 dealer
Wow..........

ATF

The ATF requires a store front. So you cant have a Store Front in a residential area.

UNLESS grandfather in.

Just called the ATF.

It's a federal thing requiring a store front.

All home FFL's are grandfathered in. If the miss the renewal
There is no mercy.

ATF agents in HI told me they don't care where it is, but to contact HI permitting since they do.  You can have home businesses if permitting allows it.  My last residence, I got approved to operate my dog training business out of my home; but I had to file paperwork, go to a council meeting, get approved, have a public feedback comments duration, show that traffic wouldn't generally increase in the area more than normal etc.