Range could open Friday !!! (Read 28098 times)

dogman

sliver

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 07:18:49 AM »
idk man... I mean I get a letter each month from publisher's clearing house saying I could be a millionair.  now how much you wanna bet I didn't win? :thumbsup:

dafrtknocker

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 12:14:19 PM »
Check the Mayors calender, I'm sure he and some other politicians would be there for ribbon cutting type reopening.

zippz

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 12:24:44 PM »
I'm thinking it's a partial opening, that the rifle range is still closed.  I don't think they work that fast.

jimsaloha

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 01:32:52 PM »
 ???Does anyone know who we can contact to get the ball rolling on getting back the full range?

WTF?Shane

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 02:47:10 PM »
???Does anyone know who we can contact to get the ball rolling on getting back the full range?

Here's something: https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=12763.0

jimsaloha

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 03:28:01 PM »
I just shot this off (pun intended) to Mayor Caldwell.
Dear Mayor Caldwell,
Than you for your support.
I understand that work is underway to rebuild the 100yd berm.
Is their any plans to relocate the steel plates, so that we can shoot beyond 100yds?
I have been using the Rifle Range for more then 12 years, at least once a week.  I'm eagerly awaiting the reopening. 

macsak

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 04:05:36 PM »

I just shot this off (pun intended) to Mayor Caldwell.
Dear Mayor Caldwell,
Than you for your support.
I understand that work is underway to rebuild the 100yd berm.
Is their any plans to relocate the steel plates, so that we can shoot beyond 100yds?
I have been using the Rifle Range for more then 12 years, at least once a week.  I'm eagerly awaiting the reopening. 


Current proposed new rules are 100 yards, paper targets only
I would be very surprised if there is any deviation from this
Does not hurt to ask, though

jimsaloha

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 04:29:20 PM »
Current proposed new rules are 100 yards, paper targets only
I would be very surprised if there is any deviation from this
Does not hurt to ask, though

IMHO, we need to keep pushing to get the whole range back.  The ricochet theory was based on the plates that were laying down.  I understood, that their are folks ready to do to do steel repairs.
How many years has the range allowed shooting steel at various distances out to 440 yds, without one incidence.   Except for the 50 cal which are now banned.

Q

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Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 05:04:24 PM »
I'm more worried about allowing 50, 25 and even 10 yd distances. I personally do not shoot out beyond 50 yards, because thats the effective range of my weapon systems.

Don't say that!  My Mosins reached the 240 yd steel 4 out of 5 shots all day long!!

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dogman

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 05:35:48 PM »
They didn't say which Friday.

suka

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 06:52:03 PM »
They didn't say which Friday.
Freaky Friday

Aloha808

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 07:24:51 PM »
I'm glad the range is opening again, however this is still an unfortunate win for the anti gunners.  Kokohead went from shooting paper and steel at 50-400 yards to temporarily shut down and now basically shooting dirt at 100 yards.  Guaranteed well get complaints of ricochets even when only shooting paper. Yes, we need to get the distances and steel restored

Mr. Farknocker

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 10:11:50 PM »
IMHO, we need to keep pushing to get the whole range back.  The ricochet theory was based on the plates that were laying down.

Jim,

How does this ricochet theory work with plates laying down? You talking about the plane of the plate's surface being parallel to the level ground? The law of reflection dictates that the angle of incident equals the law of reflection. A round skimming the surface of a plate lying down would therefore be reflected off a flat plate at the same angle.

jimsaloha

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2014, 12:18:33 AM »
Jim,

How does this ricochet theory work with plates laying down? You talking about the plane of the plate's surface being parallel to the level ground? The law of reflection dictates that the angle of incident equals the law of reflection. A round skimming the surface of a plate lying down would therefore be reflected off a flat plate at the same angle.
My point exactly!  This is one of the arguments used that limited us to 100yds only..

jimsaloha

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2014, 10:58:30 AM »
This is the response to my e-mail about going beyond 100yds.

Dear Mr.
Thank you for your email
the shooting distance of targets
on November 22, 2013, regarding the decision to limit
at the Koko Head Shooting Complex Rifle Range.
This management decision was instituted on November 1, 2013, due to
problems with the long distance targets which were being moved and/or placed in
inappropriate locations or in an unsafe manner. It was difficult to identify and correct
because the persons putting up targets were doing so possibly during the closure hours
of the range.
The decision to limit the maximum distance of shooting to be 100 yards is to
maintain a safe and controlled environment for the benefit of all users.
If you have any questions, please contact Mr. Todd Hiranaga, East Honolulu
Manager, at 373-8013.
Sincerely,
Kirk CaIdwell
Mayor

Heavies

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2014, 11:17:21 AM »
This is the response to my e-mail about going beyond 100yds.

Dear Mr.
Thank you for your email
the shooting distance of targets
on November 22, 2013, regarding the decision to limit
at the Koko Head Shooting Complex Rifle Range.
This management decision was instituted on November 1, 2013, due to
problems with the long distance targets which were being moved and/or placed in
inappropriate locations or in an unsafe manner. It was difficult to identify and correct
because the persons putting up targets were doing so possibly during the closure hours
of the range.
The decision to limit the maximum distance of shooting to be 100 yards is to
maintain a safe and controlled environment for the benefit of all users.
If you have any questions, please contact Mr. Todd Hiranaga, East Honolulu
Manager, at 373-8013.
Sincerely,
Kirk CaIdwell
Mayor

The evidence, or lack thereof,  does not matter here.  The facts are that the range has now found itself in the middle of a residential area.  The 'repaired'  range will be severely limited for rifle, from this point forward.   A purpose built rifle venue is the only option left for rifle owners.  Unless you are content on putting holes in paper exclusively at 100 yards.....

jimsaloha

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2014, 11:59:37 AM »
The evidence, or lack thereof,  does not matter here.  The facts are that the range has now found itself in the middle of a residential area.  The 'repaired'  range will be severely limited for rifle, from this point forward.   A purpose built rifle venue is the only option left for rifle owners.  Unless you are content on putting holes in paper exclusively at 100 yards.....
The range has had the community all around for many years.  My question is, why did it only start raining bullets in 2013?
A new venue would be fantastic, except I don't believe it will happen in my life time.

ImKu

Re: Range could open Friday !!!
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2014, 12:00:58 PM »
Anyone got word if they opened the range today and if so what sides did they open?
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