WARNING (Read 9286 times)

Rocky

WARNING
« on: January 29, 2014, 03:49:27 PM »
Knudsen has just posted his Neighborhood Board email address on his site so that he can be emailed.
This is a HON.GOV site and is monitored and recorded.

  NO ONE SHOULD CONTACT HIM THRU THERE !

   Use of this GOVERNMENT Email address for it's non intended purpose can have immediate repercussions for us all.

   We are being baited.
Do not bite.

   Get the word out NOW.
 
  Do not respond to this post
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macsak

Re: WARNING
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 04:20:57 PM »
Knudsen has just posted his Neighborhood Board email address on his site so that he can be emailed.
This is a HON.GOV site and is monitored and recorded.

  NO ONE SHOULD CONTACT HIM THRU THERE !

   Use of this GOVERNMENT Email address for it's non intended purpose can have immediate repercussions for us all.

   We are being baited.
Do not bite.

   Get the word out NOW.
 
  Do not respond to this post

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Bota-CS1

Re: WARNING
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 04:38:41 PM »
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No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

suka

Re: WARNING
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 05:13:49 PM »
knudson123@gmail.com

macsak

Re: WARNING
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 05:28:59 PM »

Rocky

Re: WARNING
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 06:13:48 PM »
knudson123@gmail.com

That is not the addy I am referring to.
do whatever with that one.
Public knowledge, private entity

   Just not the www1hon.gov "ish"   one
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Re: WARNING
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2014, 08:02:52 AM »
That is not the addy I am referring to.
do whatever with that one.
Public knowledge, private entity

   Just not the www1hon.gov "ish"   one

Actually, that is the email addy that you get when going to the hon.gov site.
I am not a lawyer.

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macsak

Re: WARNING
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2014, 08:39:24 AM »
Definitely a trap
At the bottom of the board minutes, he lists his home phone number and personal email address

Tom_G

Re: WARNING
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2014, 05:36:10 PM »
What's a trap about it?  We write to .gov addresses all the time here.  How many posts have URGED us to do so, for the purposes of contacting elected officials?  Isn't this an elected official?
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macsak

Re: WARNING
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2014, 05:51:27 PM »
What's a trap about it?  We write to .gov addresses all the time here.  How many posts have URGED us to do so, for the purposes of contacting elected officials?  Isn't this an elected official?

check pms, tom_g

you still going to be able to make it tomorrow?

Tom_G

Re: WARNING
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2014, 09:52:01 PM »

you still going to be able to make it tomorrow?


According to my Magic 8-Ball, "all signs point to yes."  I have access to our truck, and my boo has other plans!
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macsak

Re: WARNING
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2014, 10:05:57 PM »
According to my Magic 8-Ball, "all signs point to yes."  I have access to our truck, and my boo has other plans!

truck?
ho, tom_g gots lots of stuff for sell

survivorman

Re: WARNING
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 04:58:24 AM »
What's a trap about it?  We write to .gov addresses all the time here.  How many posts have URGED us to do so, for the purposes of contacting elected officials?  Isn't this an elected official?

I agree with this, as long as the correspondence is kept on track and with purpose.  I mean the guy obviously has an agenda, but we are all part of the constituency that he is supposted to be representing.  Gone unchecked he and his type are free to advance his personal agenda rather than the peoples.  Look at Cabanilla....preferably with dark sunglasses on.

Funtimes

Re: WARNING
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 06:27:05 AM »
I've sent all kinds of e-mails to public officials, what's could be a trap?

The only thing is that your e-mails could be requested via UIPA.
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Re: WARNING
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 09:07:36 AM »
What's a trap about it?  We write to .gov addresses all the time here.  How many posts have URGED us to do so, for the purposes of contacting elected officials?  Isn't this an elected official?

Yes, but when we write elected officials, it's usually not to call them kitty cuddling, boy loving, baby batter breath etc....
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Re: WARNING
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2014, 09:34:47 AM »
Yes, but when we write elected officials, it's usually not to call them kitty cuddling, boy loving, baby batter breath etc....

I hope people are not writing elected officials just to call them names. It is a waste of time and they just delete it.
I am not a lawyer.

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Re: WARNING
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2014, 11:31:34 AM »
Yes, but when we write elected officials, it's usually not to call them kitty cuddling, boy loving, baby batter breath etc....

Doesn't matter, welcome to the first amendment.   As with anything, you should maintain a professional and respectful tone with communications as that is the appropriate way to communicate.  However, if you wanted to send him e-mails saying he was a cat loving fuck stick or anything else deemed protected speech, you are within your rights and the there is no recourse available to the government.  You, as a citizen, are allowed to say and criticize him.  If he is posting stuff in his personal capacity on social media, that is more than fair game when it comes to anything else.

I mean really, can you think of all the lovely e-mails that addresses at places like whitehouse.gov get?
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Re: WARNING
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2014, 11:31:56 AM »
I hope people are not writing elected officials just to call them names. It is a waste of time and they just delete it.

This presumes that they don't just delete ALL your messages already ;)
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2014, 02:08:07 PM »
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Re: WARNING
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2014, 02:47:58 PM »
This isn't exactly correct.

Harassment is based upon the individual's perception of what is harassing, which is essentially what makes them feel uncomfortable or makes them feel like there is a direct threat to their physical being or life.

If people bomb him with BS, he can collect evidence that can be used to further whatever goal he has in mind. He may get shot down in court eventually, but that is after the very likely possibility that he could take you to court based upon harassing emails. Further more, if they can somehow link your email to your physical being or residence, it is grounds for him request a TRO against you, which will require you not have any contact with him whatsoever, and require you to stay within a certain distance from him; all because of a disparaging email because it all boils down to if he can portray if he is being harassed in his own perception, or if he feels it justifies a sincere concern to his physical being or life. 

When it comes to dealing with these ass hats, troll them professionally with big words and legal doctrine. As much as I would like to tell Chris Lee or this anal troll how much they suck in the harshest way possible, it serves nothing other than to give them the sympathy and evidence they need to carry out possible legal action against you.

You lose some of those options when acting as a public official. He can only get a TRO for threats to him, which is not protected speech.

Can you cite instances where people who were advocating speech within the context of the first amendment were successfully filed against?

Much of this type of stuff was covered in our lawsuit against HPD for deleting comments on facebook, which, they are about to pay us for after they have substantially lost against all of our claims.

http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/on-featured/police-fan-page-brings-amendment-lawsuit/
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