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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2014, 06:29:01 PM »
Now that I'm thinking about this more, isn't an "AOW" with a 16" barrel just a rifle without a buttstock?
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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2014, 06:30:15 PM »
Quote from: 2aHawaii on March 03, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
Now that I'm thinking about this more, isn't an "AOW" with a 16" barrel just a rifle without a buttstock?
No
Anything that is not a rifle or handgun by definition under ATF.
Pen guns, cane guns, belt guns, smothbore handguns, 2 handed handguns, etc....
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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2014, 06:35:51 PM »
What's the ATF definition of a rifle?
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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2014, 06:37:26 PM »
Quote from: 2aHawaii on March 03, 2014, 06:35:51 PM
What's the ATF definition of a rifle?
Fired from the shoulders,

Handgun fired from one hand.

Btw the 1919 is a rifle, because the a-6 model has a buttstock and was meant to be fired from the shoulders.
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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2014, 08:24:06 PM »
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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2014, 03:55:39 AM »
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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2014, 03:59:55 AM »

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Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2014, 04:03:26 AM »
Quote from: jonjon on March 03, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
so does that mean my receiver is still a receiver and not a rifle in Hawaii? if it is, how does HPD have the authority to say it is not a receiver and I can not make it into a pistol?
letters above should answer your Q's
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sliver

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2014, 05:46:36 PM »
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Kanakamaoli23

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« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2014, 06:35:23 PM »
What do you guys think of a magwell grip on the ar pistol?
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suka

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2014, 06:56:12 PM »
Quote from: Kanakamaoli23 on March 05, 2014, 06:35:23 PM
What do you guys think of a magwell grip on the ar pistol?
Gay?
 :love:
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Kanakamaoli23

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2014, 07:48:46 PM »
Quote from: suka on March 05, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Gay?
 :love:

 :rofl: seriously? I think they look pretty cool!
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suka

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2014, 07:52:41 PM »
Quote from: Kanakamaoli23 on March 05, 2014, 07:48:46 PM
:rofl: seriously? I think they look pretty cool!
Just playing withcha!

I tend not to put anything on my firearms, not even scopes.
Plain Jane for me.
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suka

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2014, 08:01:00 PM »
deeznuts,
did the letter help?


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Kanakamaoli23

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2014, 08:14:41 PM »
What about the legality of those? Being that they are design to accommodate a second hand?
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suka

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2014, 08:19:08 PM »
Quote from: Kanakamaoli23 on March 05, 2014, 08:14:41 PM
What about the legality of those? Being that they are design to accommodate a second hand?

only vertical 90degrees  perpendicular fore grips.
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suka

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #76 on: March 06, 2014, 12:09:11 AM »
Quote from: Kanakamaoli23 on March 05, 2014, 08:14:41 PM
What about the legality of those? Being that they are design to accommodate a second hand?



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Kanakamaoli23

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #77 on: March 06, 2014, 07:43:35 AM »
Fantastic. I think I'll be ordering one.
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dwela

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #78 on: March 21, 2014, 04:02:21 PM »
Could you just order a dedicated pistol lower instead? 
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dogman

Re: Registering AR (or whatever we're going to call them) lower receivers as pistols
« Reply #79 on: March 21, 2014, 10:39:03 PM »
Quote from: dwela on March 21, 2014, 04:02:21 PM
Could you just order a dedicated pistol lower instead? 
Explain  ??? . . . There are lowers that are marked "pistol". Is that what you mean? The registration process would be the same.
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