Biometric Safes? (Read 5999 times)

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Biometric Safes?
« on: February 10, 2014, 11:38:59 PM »
I was thinking of purchasing one of those small SpeedVaults. They have the four button combo or bio-metric. I have two young daughters ages 5 and 7 and they do listen to us and know about all of our firearms. However I want to be as safe as possible. This safe will be relatively hidden but do you think I should tell them just in case they find it or not say anything? With a four digit combo it's possible that they can guess the combo after many tries or just lucky on the first. With bio-metric they should not be able to get in period. However I heard some bad things such as it's slow or may take several tries. I have an iPhone 5s and when my fingers are wet or dirty it won't open my phone. What if I was taking a shower or eating chicken wings from Dirty Lickens, how will I open the safe? BTW, I told my work place to put an order in today and mention 2A Hawaii.
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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2014, 11:59:43 PM »
 Jusy watched a YouTube video on how easy these are for people to get into if they have knowledge or curious busy hands.   But any safe is better than the old locking night stand if I find the link ill post it.

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 12:19:50 AM »
FWIW-generally, I tend to distrust any electronic gadget meant to secure my gun.
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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 12:23:05 AM »
I have the Sv500 Speed Vault.  The combo you set is not numeric, but a set of "entries".  An entry is one or more keys pressed at once.  Minimum is 3 entries for a combo, and max is 6.  With 6 entries, some using more than one key at once, you can set it complicated enough for the kids to never guess it.

I've had the battery die once since I bought it.  I think it took about a year. Just open it once a week or more to test the battery. If the battery dies, you must use the key to open the door to access the battery compartment.

When' the door opens, the counter weight makes a loud clunk sound.  If you are trying not to alert someone, then wait until you have to open it, and it only takes 2 seconds from combo entered to gun in hand.

If you leave the house empty, recommend placing the gun in a real safe.  This safe is only for quick access and safety around kids, not anti-theft. It will keep visitors and other "honest people" from getting to the gun, but not a real thief.

There is a nice bright LED bulb to help you get your hand on the grip properly. The muzzle is stuck in foam rubber, so the grip is presented to you for quick retrieving.

For the money, it's hard to beat the features.  I chose the keypad version over the biometric for two reasons.  1.  Biometrics can be difficult to make work every time.  The reader is sometimes unable to scan the print without several tries.  Not ideal for this application.  2.  I like the idea of being able to give the combo to my family as required.  I don't need to program in several fingerprints.  The situation may also arise where I might need to give the combo to someone in danger over text message or phone call.  Can't do that with a print reader.

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BLKDRGN

Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 09:55:21 AM »
Thanks. I thought it was only allowed a 4 digit pin. Yes this is for quick access in different rooms. I don't think for home defense it's wise to have all your firearms in one room.
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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 12:35:40 PM »
These are the best pistol safes I could find out there. Solid construction, bolts to the floor and can be opened in the dark with out even being able to see the indexing mechanism (in seconds).
http://www.deansafe.com/fort-knox-handgun-safes.html

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 12:59:40 PM »
I don't  like electronic type safes.  Batteries dies, things get shorted, etc...  I prefer something with either a conventional dial or one of those tactical wall and book shelf stuff.  But not sure how child proof those tactical wall and bookshelf stuff is.

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 01:44:25 PM »
Check out this post fom last year-

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=7002.msg67737#msg67737

I personally don't like anything biometric or electronic in a safe, especially for quick access. Way too many reported failures, I've experienced two with pistol safes.

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 02:59:31 PM »
These are the best pistol safes I could find out there. Solid construction, bolts to the floor and can be opened in the dark with out even being able to see the indexing mechanism (in seconds).
http://www.deansafe.com/fort-knox-handgun-safes.html

Oh yeah forgot to mention these are purely mechanical. No electric, no battery.

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 05:50:00 PM »
Check out this post fom last year-

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=7002.msg67737#msg67737

I personally don't like anything biometric or electronic in a safe, especially for quick access. Way too many reported failures, I've experienced two with pistol safes.

Anybody know where to get one of these? They don't ship to HI.       :-\          Didn't see any dealer info either...
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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 07:30:11 PM »
Anybody know where to get one of these? They don't ship to HI.       :-\          Didn't see any dealer info either...


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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 07:36:50 PM »
God, guns, and guts made America. Let's keep all three!

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2014, 07:47:28 PM »
Actually looking for one of these.

http://fas1safe.com/main.sc;jsessionid=F22060C186E9F6EB69DB9C2A3AF9B3DE.qscstrfrnt03

Did you get a message saying no shipping to HI??

I just ran through the order form, it was $90.00 for shipping....no thanks.

Did find these today-

http://www.shotlock.com/Default.asp

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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2014, 08:10:31 PM »
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Re: Biometric Safes?
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2014, 01:44:09 PM »
"If you try to guess dad's safe combination and you get it wrong, spikes/lasers/booby traps shoot out" 

That's what my dad told me and my brothers growing up, I think this was shortly after watching Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark.    Never had an issue with us messing with it, even after we were teenagers and realized he was probably making it all up.  As an adult I still get nervous when I open his safe. :rofl:

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