Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii (Read 71078 times)

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Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« on: February 18, 2014, 01:45:37 PM »

punaperson

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 01:56:47 PM »
Alooooooooohaaaa!

BUD

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 02:03:50 PM »
Another shining example of Obama Nation!  I thought rednecks were bad.  Power to the people!  :shaka:
It is what it is.

Bunker

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 02:18:19 PM »
That little fella sure has a big mouth. Probably needs a good ass beating for starters. Would have be so funny if the white guy or better yet, the girl kicked his ass.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 02:42:10 PM »
Reading through all the Hawaii News Now comments for this video, it's scary.  The majority (locals) are excusing his terroristic threats by saying it's the fault of the whites and Americans who invaded and occupied Hawaii.

If that's the stuff people here learn from and teach their family and friends, then this state has real problems.  The hatred of Haoles here seems to run deep in some locals, and this isn't an isolated incident.

Commenters on the HNN thread want to "analyze" this punk and try to understand his anger.

That's all well and good, but AFTER he's arrested and punished for his bad behavior.  Hopefully there is little argument that his out-of-control verbal attack and threats of violence were just wrong.  PERIOD!
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

amazeyn

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 02:57:10 PM »
^That being said, I notice a lot of the Youtube comments are from angry locals that would scrap dis faka

You can argue the "white man takeover" thing all day, but anyone who says they abuse dogs and hit women needs to get lickens

Bunker

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 03:45:41 PM »
Not saying this is the case in this situation but often racial hatred is passed down through generations and often instilled by the parents. Blaming these young white people for the past is ridiculous, and in an asinine way to boot.

macsak

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 04:04:34 PM »
That little fella sure has a big mouth. Probably needs a good ass beating for starters. Would have be so funny if the white guy or better yet, the girl kicked his ass.

i am not understanding where ccw comes into play here
yeah, ok, he's mouthy and advancing with his hands in his pockets, but at what point would you do anything with a concealed handgun?
please learn me

pj_benn

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 04:23:03 PM »
Damn he was mad huh? Lol

One thing I'd like to point out is there is never 2 sides to a story. We should all take the uploaders description of events leading up to this as 110% fact. We should also post about how we would have loved to have ccw so we could kill the guy that will definitely help our cause when catlover forwards this to his politician friends.

Bunker

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 04:31:39 PM »
i am not understanding where ccw comes into play here
yeah, ok, he's mouthy and advancing with his hands in his pockets, but at what point would you do anything with a concealed handgun?
please learn me
I'm with you...I wouldn't do anything with a concealed handgun in this situation.

Digressing a little but think about the Chris Deedy situation and how that got out of hand. This could have been Deedy 2 if this white guy was a Deedy type LEO who felt threatened or I suspect the CCW critics would argue these types of situations could escalate to a shooting. Not agreeing with that logic just saying...

punaperson

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 04:56:07 PM »
Wouldn't any investigation of a claim of using a weapon (any weapon) in self defense turn on the determination by law enforcement and/or the justice system whether the defender had a "reasonable belief" of imminent death or serious bodily injury?

E.g. Zimmerman, yes; Dunn, no.

Haoleb

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 05:03:31 PM »
The thing that always gets me about locals like this guy is they always seem to be the ones who are at the beach drunk throwing bottles and trash everywhere, destroying property.. etc etc etc. There is not a single beach I can go to or even get near without seeing just piles of trash and broken bottles everywhere. Except the ones at the hotels. Why? Because of ignorant f*** mokes like this guy.

If I were the ones at the picnic bench I would not be drawing out my firearm from what I have seen here but I would  be glad to know I have it in the event this guy did escalate to physical violence.

HPD response to CCW is call the police... Call the police? Right. This is who shows up. Probably related to the guy in the original video.



From urban dictionary: moke

A person (usually with an ethnic background consisting of Hawaiian, Filipino, and/or Japanese. And in some very rare cases Caucasian) who is a local of one of the Hawaiian islands. Is extremely profound and in most cases, fluent in the use of "pidgin" laguage. These people usually have an IQ of 50 but make up for it with thier ability to talk a lot of trash. They engage in a lot of trash talk, and usually have nothing to back it up. They enjoy getting into fights at school and hoping that it will gain them many popularity points. Their "fights" are mostly pushing around and yelling the phrase "wat 'chu faka" out loud many times and are broken up extemely quickly. Many mokes may look tough but are actually very sensitive. If you joke about them, they threaten you, if you look at them they get pissed very quickly, and if your a white person, they will call you a "haole" and tell you to get out of Hawaii. Mokes believe that the white man took over and degraded Hawaii when really, the white man helped modernize Hawaii.
They also have low-income familys. Which probably explains why they can't speak proper English. Which makes it very hard to understand them
« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 05:13:32 PM by Haoleb »

pj_benn

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 06:06:24 PM »
The thing that always gets me about locals like this guy is they always seem to be the ones who are at the beach drunk throwing bottles and trash everywhere, destroying property.. etc etc etc. There is not a single beach I can go to or even get near without seeing just piles of trash and broken bottles everywhere. Except the ones at the hotels. Why? Because of ignorant f*** mokes like this guy.

If I were the ones at the picnic bench I would not be drawing out my firearm from what I have seen here but I would  be glad to know I have it in the event this guy did escalate to physical violence.

HPD response to CCW is call the police... Call the police? Right. This is who shows up. Probably related to the guy in the original video.



From urban dictionary: moke

A person (usually with an ethnic background consisting of Hawaiian, Filipino, and/or Japanese. And in some very rare cases Caucasian) who is a local of one of the Hawaiian islands. Is extremely profound and in most cases, fluent in the use of "pidgin" laguage. These people usually have an IQ of 50 but make up for it with thier ability to talk a lot of trash. They engage in a lot of trash talk, and usually have nothing to back it up. They enjoy getting into fights at school and hoping that it will gain them many popularity points. Their "fights" are mostly pushing around and yelling the phrase "wat 'chu faka" out loud many times and are broken up extemely quickly. Many mokes may look tough but are actually very sensitive. If you joke about them, they threaten you, if you look at them they get pissed very quickly, and if your a white person, they will call you a "haole" and tell you to get out of Hawaii. Mokes believe that the white man took over and degraded Hawaii when really, the white man helped modernize Hawaii.
They also have low-income familys. Which probably explains why they can't speak proper English. Which makes it very hard to understand them

I don't know what beaches you been to braddah but you might wanna try a few more. There is tons of beautiful shoreline around all the islands. Thanks for that completely unracist definition btw, I'm sure members of this forum are unfamiliar with the term 'moke' lol. Maybe next time you see a race baiting thread you should take a few mins and deep breaths before posting  :thumbsup:

338KID

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2014, 07:18:37 PM »
What the so called "moke" did seemed wrong. Yet the camera only showed one end of the story . Who knows what could of started this dispute . CCW has nothing to do with this unless he pulled a blade or a firearm. Don't be quick to blame  :shaka: be safe people
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

338KID

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2014, 07:20:59 PM »
The thing that always gets me about locals like this guy is they always seem to be the ones who are at the beach drunk throwing bottles and trash everywhere, destroying property.. etc etc etc. There is not a single beach I can go to or even get near without seeing just piles of trash and broken bottles everywhere. Except the ones at the hotels. Why? Because of ignorant f*** mokes like this guy.

If I were the ones at the picnic bench I would not be drawing out my firearm from what I have seen here but I would  be glad to know I have it in the event this guy did escalate to physical violence.

HPD response to CCW is call the police... Call the police? Right. This is who shows up. Probably related to the guy in the original video.



From urban dictionary: moke

A person (usually with an ethnic background consisting of Hawaiian, Filipino, and/or Japanese. And in some very rare cases Caucasian) who is a local of one of the Hawaiian islands. Is extremely profound and in most cases, fluent in the use of "pidgin" laguage. These people usually have an IQ of 50 but make up for it with thier ability to talk a lot of trash. They engage in a lot of trash talk, and usually have nothing to back it up. They enjoy getting into fights at school and hoping that it will gain them many popularity points. Their "fights" are mostly pushing around and yelling the phrase "wat 'chu faka" out loud many times and are broken up extemely quickly. Many mokes may look tough but are actually very sensitive. If you joke about them, they threaten you, if you look at them they get pissed very quickly, and if your a white person, they will call you a "haole" and tell you to get out of Hawaii. Mokes believe that the white man took over and degraded Hawaii when really, the white man helped modernize Hawaii.
They also have low-income familys. Which probably explains why they can't speak proper English. Which makes it very hard to understand them
I'm Hawaiian /japanese so am I a Moke ?
Fast is fine , accuracy is final

Kingkeoni

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2014, 07:28:08 PM »
At the end of the video, the local guy said "I dare you to try and be a hero again"

If I had to guess, I'd say that this local guy was probably arguing with his old lady and the haole approached him "trying to be a hero".

This is all just a guess though.

Realistically, the guy was just mad but didn't do anything violent.

If you can't take a few angry words, you don't need a concealed weapon, you just need some vagisil.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Bunker

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2014, 07:34:27 PM »
Kinda sounded like maybe the local guy was doing something to his dog or a dog and the guy or girl may have said something to make him stop that upset him but I don't really know...just guessing too. Only speculating because the girl mentioned something at the end about they are just dog loving people.

macsak

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 07:35:54 PM »
At the end of the video, the local guy said "I dare you to try and be a hero again"

If I had to guess, I'd say that this local guy was probably arguing with his old lady and the haole approached him "trying to be a hero".

This is all just a guess though.

Realistically, the guy was just mad but didn't do anything violent.

If you can't take a few angry words, you don't need a concealed weapon, you just need some vagisil.

youtube explanation says that they intervened when they saw a guy throw an object at a dog
this "moke" jumped in for the alleged thrower

Bunker

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 07:36:51 PM »
If you can't take a few angry words, you don't need a concealed weapon, you just need some vagisil.
+1

Bunker

Re: Yet another prime example of why we need CCW in Hawaii
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2014, 07:40:29 PM »
youtube explanation says that they intervened when they saw a guy throw an object at a dog
this "moke" jumped in for the alleged thrower
Too bad the dog didn't attack and bite the shit out of him. But then again someone would have said the dog should be put down for being violent.