I use Red Dot, 1 1/8 Oz #34 Bushing, #8 Shot, WAA12 WAD and do use WIN Super X hull, on A Mec 8567N Grabber. I only reload two time and trash. Put a sharpie line on the hull. I use it for skeet and target. I use it in my Benelli M4, Remington 11-87, Remington 870, and also in my Browning Sporting with zero problem.