Baker win (Read 53965 times)

Funtimes

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2014, 04:01:50 PM »
Chris, is this the time to apply for CCW or should we wait until the lower court grants your injunction?

We need to wait to see how Peruta is finally disposed off.  We should know more mid April.  That is my best guess at this point.
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HiCarry

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2014, 04:15:11 PM »
Chris - Congratulations!!

Mr. Holcomb and Mr. Beck - Thanks for your expertise and persistence.

Jdelacruz

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2014, 04:18:46 PM »
Congrats everyone and thank you for your hard work.

Tom

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2014, 04:35:34 PM »
Tom
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ren

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OldFaithful

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2014, 05:06:05 PM »
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/25033588/hawaii-man-to-get-2nd-shot-at-gun-license-request

Scrolled through the comments on the facebook page a bit.  Stopped in case I were to see some anti-self defense/ gun comments. 

Bota-CS1

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2014, 05:18:30 PM »
Scrolled through the comments on the facebook page a bit.  Stopped in case I were to see some anti-self defense/ gun comments.

and let the anti-gun butt-hurt begin.... :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

Jared

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2014, 05:20:31 PM »
We need to wait to see how Peruta is finally disposed off.  We should know more mid April.  That is my best guess at this point.

Chris,

If you win and Honolulu issues, will you apply to the other 3 counties? If not, will you ask the court to make the license statewide under the "undue burden" concept?

Funtimes

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2014, 05:21:54 PM »
Chris,

If you win and Honolulu issues, will you apply to the other 3 counties? If not, will you ask the court to make the license statewide under the "undue burden" concept?
this will bind everyone in Hawaii.  If another county fails to comply, we will deal with them accordingly. #childrenscollegefunds
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Hawaii Volcano Squad

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2014, 05:29:37 PM »
I posted the actual BAKER v. KEALOHA courtroom oral argument on my YouTube page so anyone can easily listen to it.
At 35:40 the Gun Control lawyer claims that if victims of crime are allowed to carry a gun then the Criminals will always come with a gun since the know the victims are armed.
The judge jumps on her. "But criminals aren't being issued permits. At least I don't believe they are!"
Peruta, Richards, and now Baker. This calls for a drink! I am going with one shot of Glenlivet. Cheers!
Perhaps someone should start a favorite CCW weapon thread in anticipation of the final ending of the State of Hawaii's past deprivation of the people's 2nd amendment rights, and the affirmation of the people's freedom as  enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

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stangzilla

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2014, 05:36:23 PM »
Good luck wolfwood!  And thank you!

 :shaka:

Haoleb

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2014, 05:36:54 PM »
It is pretty ridiculous to read some of the comments posted below those news story links... These anti gun people are living in a fantasy. "hawaii has less crime because there is no carry" really?  ::)

Lifer

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2014, 05:56:22 PM »
Enjoy your constitutional rights. We just won on the handgun carry law. The rest of the HRS is being taken care of in George Young's appeal.
Courtesy of Chris Baker and his two unpaid attorneys Alan Beck (me) and Richard Loren Holcomb (lead counsel).

Baker v. Kealoha Decesion

THANK YOU VERY MUCH for everyone's hard work and dedication!!!

Kanakamaoli23

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2014, 07:37:02 PM »
This is fantastic news! Thanks to everyone involved in helping us secure our god-given right in this state. So when can we expect to be able to excercise our right to defend ourselves when outside of our homes?

punaperson

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2014, 07:54:02 PM »
... So when can we expect to be able to excercise our right to defend ourselves when outside of our homes?
I heard that in Orange County, California, where the sheriff decided to conform to the Peruta decision even before it has been finalized, that someone called in and got the appointment for the interview required for the CCW permit and was given a date in 2016 (yes, sixteen). Since things are only at stage one here, it might be a while. In all fairness to Orange County, the Board of Supervisors did allocate $1.5 MILLION to hire 15 retired deputies to handle the applications, so hopefully those appointment dates will be much closer to the present once those people are hired and up to speed. I have a suspicion that Hawaii will stonewall and fight tooth and nail to avoid allowing us to exercise our natural, civil, fundamental, individual right to bear arms as protected by the Constitution.  :shaka:

Antithesis

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2014, 08:08:08 PM »
That's amazing guys!  Great work!
"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
If you wish for peace, prepare for war

zippz

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2014, 08:24:41 PM »
Lots of tap dancing by the state attorney.  I would hate to be representing the state.

I posted the actual BAKER v. KEALOHA courtroom oral argument on my YouTube page so anyone can easily listen to it.
At 35:40 the Gun Control lawyer claims that if victims of crime are allowed to carry a gun then the Criminals will always come with a gun since the know the victims are armed.
The judge jumps on her. "But criminals aren't being issued permits. At least I don't believe they are!"
Peruta, Richards, and now Baker. This calls for a drink! I am going with one shot of Glenlivet. Cheers!
Perhaps someone should start a favorite CCW weapon thread in anticipation of the final ending of the State of Hawaii's past deprivation of the people's 2nd amendment rights, and the affirmation of the people's freedom as  enshrined in the Bill of Rights.


suka

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2014, 08:41:27 PM »
WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!

edster48

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2014, 08:46:34 PM »
Gentlemen of the Baker team, thank you! Whenever you're in town the beers are on me! Shots too!

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dustoff003

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2014, 09:17:57 PM »
Many thanks to all involved, the attorneys Mr. Holcomb, Mr. Beck, their team and to Chris! Chris thanks for taking on the system for the good of all, thanks for this site and for the HDF.