can I bring my pistol target to 10 to 15 yds out instead of 25.  I think 25 is just to far. I am new at shooting pistol.

can I bring my pistol target to 10 to 15 yds out instead of 25.  I think 25 is just to far. I am new at shooting pistol.

no, sorry

It was too far for me at first as well. What I did was spend some time at Honolulu Firearms and Range using their indoor range. It is more pricey than Kokohead but I think it helped me out a lot as gradually moved the target from 7 yards to further out. I could focus more on my trigger squeeze and see immediately the results and try to correct it.

can I bring my pistol target to 10 to 15 yds out instead of 25.  I think 25 is just to far. I am new at shooting pistol.

While you can't do that at the state-run city & county-run range or at the silhouette range, you can in the action bays.  You just need to join a club that allows open shooting.  Two great examples of such clubs are HRA and HDF.  HRA fun shoot is TODAY, March 23.  HDF is next Saturday, March 29.  You can also get lots of help from qualified instructors.

While you can't do that at the state-run range or at the silhouette range, you can in the action bays.  You just need to join a club that allows open shooting.  Two great examples of such clubs are HRA and HDF.  HRA fun shoot is TODAY, March 23.  HDF is next Saturday, March 29.  You can also get lots of help from qualified instructors.

Good advice! One session with the HRA Fun Shoot and there's a noticeable improvement with my shooting  at the pistol range. I'm getting ready to go this morning. Check KGS website for more info, home page and scroll down to the blue list of links, last item.

Good advice! One session with the HRA Fun Shoot and there's a noticeable improvement with my shooting  at the pistol range. I'm getting ready to go this morning. Check KGS website for more info, home page and scroll down to the blue list of links, last item.

Wow
That sucks
Hra shoot on gun show weekend
Now you have to choose

While you can't do that at the state-run range or at the silhouette range, you can in the action bays.  You just need to join a club that allows open shooting.  Two great examples of such clubs are HRA and HDF.  HRA fun shoot is TODAY, March 23.  HDF is next Saturday, March 29.  You can also get lots of help from qualified instructors.

Tom it's a County-run range, KHSC is a C&C of Honolulu park. I am not trying to cause problems but I think there is a common misconception that KHSC is a state facility.

When i first started it helped to go on a weekday and ask the RO's for tips.  There used to be this RO who wouldnt wait for you to ask, he just told you how much you sucked.

I see it as a good way for the state/city/whatever to limit gun ownership.  Its hard for people to shoot all the way out to 25 yards as newbies and there are so many people I know which like guns but gave up on shooting when they couldn't even get their bullets on paper at 25 yards.  They just sold them or didn't bother ever picking them up again as they didn't wanna waste money and ammo on something they just couldn't do or didn't think they could ever get better at.  When I take people to a 7 yards they can at least start to get on target and with time they can work themselves out to 25 yards as they get better with more experience but when you go to the range, shoot for the first or second time, spend like 20-50 bucks on ammo and not even come close to the target once...  it's discouraging at best.

Shooting your target at 25 yds is not SD 

The range staff there can be very helpful if you have an open mind and wiling to accept help.  Yesterday a lady was having trouble shooting.   Half her shots were going down into the dirt and was getting frustrated.  So I gave her a few tips  for her flinch.  I hope you guys do the same too.

Tom it's a County-run range, KHSC is a C&C of Honolulu park. I am not trying to cause problems but I think there is a common misconception that KHSC is a state facility.

Funny... I actually know that it's a C&C park, but for some reason, I still refer to the pistol shed and the rifle range as "state run."  Because, after all, state employees are running them.  But no more! 

Shooting your target at 25 yds is not SD 

It is actually called marksmanship training.

 Self defense is when your are shooting at people that are trying to kill you with guns, pipe bombs, arrows, spears, and Molotov cocktails from 25 yards away.

Train to the maximum effective range of your weapon. If you can consistently hit a 20"x20" square at 25 yards, making a lethal hit at 5 yards on a 4" zone is easy.

It is actually called marksmanship training.

 Self defense is when your are shooting at people that are trying to kill you with guns, pipe bombs, arrows, spears, and Molotov cocktails from 25 yards away.

Train to the maximum effective range of your weapon. If you can consistently hit a 20"x20" square at 25 yards, making a lethal hit at 5 yards on a 4" zone is easy.

eloquently said!

I see it as a good way for the state/city/whatever to limit gun ownership.  Its hard for people to shoot all the way out to 25 yards as newbies and there are so many people I know which like guns but gave up on shooting when they couldn't even get their bullets on paper at 25 yards.  They just sold them or didn't bother ever picking them up again as they didn't wanna waste money and ammo on something they just couldn't do or didn't think they could ever get better at.  When I take people to a 7 yards they can at least start to get on target and with time they can work themselves out to 25 yards as they get better with more experience but when you go to the range, shoot for the first or second time, spend like 20-50 bucks on ammo and not even come close to the target once...  it's discouraging at best.

The best advice I can give to teach new shooters is to start on a handgun that is accurate, low recoiling and stress the fundamentals.

 If you have little idea of what it takes to actually hit the target: good grip, steady position, sight alignment, trigger control and follow through; Then hitting the target will be trial and error process.

Add in heavy blast and recoil conditions shooters to flinch. I've seen some shut both eyes when they yank the trigger because they are afraid of the blast. Such guns are more expensive to shoot and results in less practice.

If you watch the best shooters, they will dryfire and rehearse the stages of fire. All their movements are consistent and smooth. They don't even blink until after the recoil and the sights return to the target.

Hits with .22s count more that misses with ,44 Magnums.

It is actually called marksmanship training.

 Self defense is when your are shooting at people that are trying to kill you with guns, pipe bombs, arrows, spears, and Molotov cocktails from 25 yards away.

Train to the maximum effective range of your weapon. If you can consistently hit a 20"x20" square at 25 yards, making a lethal hit at 5 yards on a 4" zone is easy.

It pays to practice to the effective range of your firearm, but there is a lot to be said for practicing your self defense shooting at the ranges typically involved in self defense situations. As another poster mentioned, it also causes a lot of newbies to get frustrated and give up prematurely.

We should be able to practice at much closer ranges than 25 yards. If folks choose to practice at that distance, than go for it. But training at 25 yards for those interested in becoming proficient at self defense shooting is detrimental to that goal.

Form a coalition and raise the money to install a cable system for kokohead. I brought it up 20 years ago. Was shot down.

Just do one side of the pistol range.

This is SD 


In my experience, recoil and bad instruction are what deters new shooters' progress. It still amazes me how instructors can troubleshoot a shooter's problems just by looking at a target. There's a lot more going on.

It pays to practice to the effective range of your firearm, but there is a lot to be said for practicing your self defense shooting at the ranges typically involved in self defense situations. As another poster mentioned, it also causes a lot of newbies to get frustrated and give up prematurely.

We should be able to practice at much closer ranges than 25 yards. If folks choose to practice at that distance, than go for it. But training at 25 yards for those interested in becoming proficient at self defense shooting is detrimental to that goal.

I recommend joining a club that specializes in that kind of shooting.

It is actually called marksmanship training.

That is absolutely 100% correct.

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Since everyone always needs the what's and why's:

The pistol range is set up for bullseye/conventional pistol shooting and 25/50 yards is the standard for competition. It is not some conspiracy...simply what the pistol side was originally designed for.


For those having trouble getting on paper? Read this again...

The best advice I can give to teach new shooters is to start on a handgun that is accurate, low recoiling and stress the fundamentals.

Why is that the best advice? Because a lot of new shooters go out and buy based on some random online advice/article or what a sales person says you need. And  they usually end up with a gun that exceeds their ability.