year round handgun permit? (Read 11829 times)

kekoa

year round handgun permit?
« on: March 27, 2014, 07:10:13 AM »
Anybody tried to do this:

Apply for a handgun permit, wait the 14 days pick up the permit and then apply again. Repeat and repeat and repeat. Is this OK to do? Just thinking that it would be a way to always have a permit for when that extra good deal pops up or the last minute decision or need to pick up a handgun  pops up. What you guys think on this one?

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 07:23:06 AM »
Cannot when u apply to aquire u need to provide serial number on permit

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 07:47:39 AM »
Like Bigkahuna said, the handgun permit is only good for one handgun purchase for a particular handgun. Really, you need to buy it first before even applying for the permit.
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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 08:14:55 AM »
You can but you gonna have to buy a pistol every 14 days :rofl:

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 08:20:21 AM »
Like Bigkahuna said, the handgun permit is only good for one handgun purchase for a particular handgun. Really, you need to buy it first before even applying for the permit.

Hmmm, I am a little confused now. About a year ago I applied for a permit but did not have the handgun and thus  serial number yet, he clerk said just bring the handgun back after I pick it up when I register it.

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 08:21:58 AM »
You can but you gonna have to buy a pistol every 14 days :rofl:

So acquire permits means you MUST purchase then? I am just going to be on the hunt when I get to Oahu and if something looks good and priced right I will be able to purchase.

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 08:28:46 AM »
Unlike long gun permits, handgun permits are to acquire a specific handgun (specify serial number, caliber, make, seller) instead of just any handgun in general.
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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 08:38:06 AM »
So acquire permits means you MUST purchase then? I am just going to be on the hunt when I get to Oahu and if something looks good and priced right I will be able to purchase.

So for every handgun purchase you have to apply for permit for instance  if you buy 5 handguns you have to apply for 5 permits

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 09:38:42 AM »
So for every handgun purchase you have to apply for permit for instance  if you buy 5 handguns you have to apply for 5 permits

Yes.  Not the same for long guns though. 
It is what it is.

kekoa

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 10:18:19 AM »
Unlike long gun permits, handgun permits are to acquire a specific handgun (specify serial number, caliber, make, seller) instead of just any handgun in general.
That is a bummer. I live Kauai and while our LGS does have some handguns and can bring in what you want by FFL, but I was hoping to get a feel on what I want before buying.

I am really leaning towards a Kahr in the 9mm family. Any body know of which gun shop would have then in stock on Oahu?

suka

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 10:20:38 AM »
Apply for the SAME handgun every 14 days .
Let the permit expire and reapply.
That will really piss off the guys at the window.

But hey make it a point the the law sucks.
No law that say how many times a permit can expire and reapply.

Hell if I'm in downtown once a week , its doable.

kekoa

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 10:22:21 AM »
Apply for the SAME handgun every 14 days .
Let the permit expire and reapply.
That will really piss off the guys at the window.

But hey make it a point the the law sucks.
No law that say how many times a permit can expire and reapply.

Hell if I'm in downtown once a week , its doable.

Yeah I don't want to really piss anybody off or anything, but it sure is a difficult process to get the permit though for sure.

suka

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 10:27:17 AM »
Yeah I don't want to really piss anybody off or anything, but it sure is a difficult process to get the permit though for sure.
Its a job at a window,
They should have no reason to get pissed about it.
They should complain to the legislature to remove registration completely.
If there was no line at HPD , no body cared about gun permits or registrations.

If enough guys let the permits expire and reapply they will relook the process.

kekoa

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2014, 10:43:15 AM »
Its a job at a window,
They should have no reason to get pissed about it.
They should complain to the legislature to remove registration completely.
If there was no line at HPD , no body cared about gun permits or registrations.

If enough guys let the permits expire and reapply they will relook the process.

Hmmmmmm, you might be onto something.

suka

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2014, 10:48:22 AM »
Of course this would be all private tranfers.
No money involved and pistols stay with the original owner
Or
Just swap pistols back and forth.


Just making a point to HPD and the system.

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2014, 11:06:29 AM »
Apply for the SAME handgun every 14 days .
Let the permit expire and reapply.
That will really piss off the guys at the window.

But hey make it a point the the law sucks.
No law that say how many times a permit can expire and reapply.

Hell if I'm in downtown once a week , its doable.


KK can correct me if I'm wrong but it won't piss off the guys at the window.
They'll just laugh at you for being a knucklehead.
Gives them job security and you're only wasting your own time.
They're there anyway.

How you gona piss them off by having them tell you:
- You missed the window for pick-up. Here's the forms again. See you in 3 weeks.  :rofl:

The guys at the window have a sense of humor. You'd become a running joke to them.

Of course this is just my opinion based on my experience.  :shaka:

mauidog

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2014, 11:14:00 AM »
Of course this would be all private tranfers.
No money involved and pistols stay with the original owner
Or
Just swap pistols back and forth.


Just making a point to HPD and the system.

IMHO, if last year's 7 hour wait in line didn't make the point clear, then a few round-robin transfers/missed permit pickups between a dozen people will only inconvenience the others in line.

This plan would need a huge number of transfers with the same people donating who knows how many hours making daily trips to HPD.  Anything less won't be enough to get anybody's attention.

Good luck with that! 
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kekoa

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2014, 02:26:49 PM »
I am done. Thread has gone way astray.  Thanks for the assistance though 

kekoa

Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2014, 02:30:28 PM »

The guys at the window have a sense of humor. You'd become a running joke to them.

Of course this is just my opinion based on my experience.  :shaka:

So your the running joke over there then :wave:
K now done

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Re: year round handgun permit?
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2014, 04:33:45 PM »
I see what you're getting Kekoa, I really do, but trying to change things from that end of the process IMHO isn't the most effective.  Think about it this way, the guys behind the desk would have to complain up the chain until the complaints to the chief who may or may not complain to the legislature.  BUT if the legislature changes the law - all those guys have to fall in line with the change per their oath to uphold the law.  Even though you're on Kaua'i , by continuing to submit testimony online you're supporting change.  It's going to be a long trek - and it'll take all of us working together to get there.   :shaka:
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