http://www.thebangswitch.com/import-ban-on-7n6-5-45x39/

Looks like some moron manufactured a 5.45x39 pistol, making the steel core ammo armor piercing on a pistol, thus banned.

Great    they better un-manufacture it

Sometimes "we" are our own worst enemies?

Sometimes "we" are our own worst enemies?

100% concur   

Boomah 

More info on this debacle.

http://rationalgun.blogspot.com/2014/03/545x39mm-is-rumored-to-have-been-banned.html?m=1

Sadly, rumor or fact, the panic buying has begun.   5.45x39 (specifically 7n6) has become 2014's .22LR in more ways than one... 

Boomah

Courtesy of Gwebs...PDF overview with some good info he put together attached and his youtube video that describes the situation for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v2ntsgd55k0

 

SITREP:5,45x39 Surplus Ammo

PodCast with some of the principle people...Gwebs - Gun Website, James Yeager - Tactical Response, and Tim Harmsen (MAC) - Military Arms Channel, Bang Switch for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WZz0rqkBRlk

Thanks Bunker, great vid 

I've already sent emails to the hill, doubt they'll do anything... One thing that still gets me, the steel core = armor piercing argument.   Obviously much higher pen potential but last time I checked 7n6 was not considered an AP round (unlike 7n10).   Craziness.  The 7n6 I shoot does little to 1/4" AR500, ahh, guess it doesn't matter at this point 

Again mahalo 

Boomah

Thanks Bunker, great vid 

I've already sent emails to the hill, doubt they'll do anything... One thing that still gets me, the steel core = armor piercing argument.   Obviously much higher pen potential but last time I checked 7n6 was not considered an AP round (unlike 7n10).   Craziness.  The 7n6 I shoot does little to 1/4" AR500, ahh, guess it doesn't matter at this point 

Again mahalo 

Boomah

You are absolutely right Boomah. 7n6 was designed to tumble/break up on impact and does a poor job of penetrating hard cover. Hence the need for the combloc to produce true armor piercing 545 ammo.

Here is the petition to BATFE...Allow the importation of the Russian military surplus 7n6:

https://www.change.org/petitions/bureau-of-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-and-explosives-allow-the-importation-of-the-russsian-military-surplus-7n6

SITREP:5,45x39 Surplus Ammo

PodCast with some of the principle people...Gwebs - Gun Website, James Yeager - Tactical Response, and Tim Harmsen (MAC) - Military Arms Channel, Bang Switch for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WZz0rqkBRlk

Thank you for sharing the video Bunker. I just finished seeing it. Everyone should see it even if you don't own an ak, ar, or other black rifle.

Thank you for sharing the video Bunker. I just finished seeing it. Everyone should see it even if you don't own an ak, ar, or other black rifle.

The bigger problem as stated is the NRA has over 5 million members and there are a lot of other organizations and gun groups but so many have the NIMBY attitude, which amounts to less than maximum 2a/pro-gun support on so many important issues. It would be great if the collective groups banned together on all issues and then they could make a significant impact. In the case of 7n6, many could care less because they don't own a firearm that uses it but it's that very attitude and lack of maximum support that results in our 2a rights being chipped away over time, little by little. 

Getting a lot of the right people mobilized on this one now...NRA, GOA, Aims, Copes, and many others. This has some of our 2a/pro-gun representatives making inquiries. Here is a well written letter from Arizona Representative Matt Salmon to the Director of BATFE requesting answers.

  why can't we have more legislators that understand and defend our constitutional rights?

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  why can't we have more legislators that understand and defend our constitutional rights?

We would have to vote in legislators that  read bills before they sign them.   

For those interested in helping in the fight. A sample letter and some background is at the Bangswitch http://www.thebangswitch.com/a-time-to-fight/ with links to the various representatives. The GAO is also fighting this issue and goes into why this is important. They have a page on this issue that takes you through the letter process here http://cqrcengage.com/gunowners/app/write-a-letter?7&engagementId=45577 Click on "Continue Reading" to view their full text.

A couple of points need to be made:

(1) First, the heavily-abused "armor piercing ammunition" ban was yet another gun control measure slammed through by Senator Bob Dole with the acquiescence of certain "pro-gun groups."

(2) Second, if anyone wondered why we have fought for almost thirty years to oppose efforts to make the definition of "armor piercing ammunition" much broader, malleable, and subject to abuse, this recent ATF action is their answer.

We have defeated Obama's efforts to rewrite this definition by statute. But it is clear that, if the Obama administration can't get Congress to pass an ammunition ban, it will ban ammunition on its own accord.

ATF will do what ATF will do -- or not.

But it is time for Congress to use the "power of the purse" to stop these repeated exercises to turn both the Constitution and the laws into a roll of toilet paper.

ACTION: Please contact your representative. Tell him to reject any ATF spending bill which does not defund ATF's unlawful regulatory activities.

I kind of hope they ban it, I've got 4 sealed crates of the stuff (8 spam cans)

I'll be rich