Import ban on 5.45x39? (Read 14851 times)

Bunker

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2014, 09:22:01 AM »
Here's the latest press release from the NRA on this issue.

We have additionally been working with members of Congress to resolve the current problem of embargoed imports.  NRA has coordinated with Congressman Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) to issue an official inquiry from his office to BATFE, asking if 7N6 projectiles have, in fact, been banned from import under new BATFE policy and asking for any explanation supporting such a ban.  At the prompting of NRA, Congressman Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) asked BATFE Director B. Todd Jones if BATFE had a new policy regarding “7N6 Russian surplus ammunition” during a hearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on troubling issues raised by recent BATFE field operations.  Jones replied that he would “look into” the issue and asked Congressman Farenthold to provide “more context.”  Further, NRA is working with members of Congress to submit additional questions to Director Jones regarding this issue. Provide "more context"....he's the bozo in charge of the agency that issued the edict. :wtf:

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2014/4/batfe-bans-import-of-military-surplus-545-sporting-ammunition.aspx

TastesLikeMetal

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2014, 06:52:43 PM »
I kind of hope they ban it, I've got 4 sealed crates of the stuff (8 spam cans)

I'll be rich

Until you want to shoot you Rifles ;)

Kingkeoni

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2014, 12:20:21 AM »
Until you want to shoot you Rifles ;)

I don't have any rifles in 5.45x39.

I've consolidated to only .223 & 7.62x39 AK's
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

TastesLikeMetal

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2014, 08:27:32 AM »
I thought for sure you'd have a AK74, oh well...

Kingkeoni

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2014, 04:55:37 PM »
I thought for sure you'd have a AK74, oh well...

Sold my last 2 earlier this year
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

TastesLikeMetal

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2014, 06:25:42 PM »
I was listening to Gun Guy Radio interview with Armscor CEO Martin Tuason, he was anticipating Global Ammo shortages soon from gun powder shortages.  He also mentioned one of the main suppliers to Tula and Wolf ammo had a major fire at their facility a couple weeks back.

Bunker

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2014, 02:35:45 PM »
Bad news, it;s official....ATF released a Special Advisory and their ruling is Russian 7n6 ammo is no longer importable.

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When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by CBP, they were found to contain a steel core.  ATF’s analysis also concluded that the ammunition could be used in a commercially available handgun, the Fabryka Bronie Radom, Model Onyks 89S, 5.45x39 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which was approved for importation into the United States in November 2011.  Accordingly, the ammunition is “armor piercing” under the section 921(a)(17)(B)(i) and is therefore not importable.  ATF’s determination applies only to the Russian-made 7N6 ammunition analyzed, not to all 5.45x39 ammunition.  Ammunition of that caliber using projectiles without a steel core would have to be independently examined to determine their importability. http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2014/04/040714-special-advisory-test-examination-and-classification-7n6-545x39-ammunition.html

This could potentially be the start of more to come. Notice the last sentence...."Ammunition of that caliber using projectiles without a steel core would have to be independently examined to determine their importability."

sliver

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2014, 04:35:42 PM »
this is why we cant have nice things.

Q

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Boomah

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2014, 05:03:05 PM »
Well Hornady will be happy...

I'm not sure it's only due to the 5.45 pistol, I'm betting there's more going on here, but I'm sure the pistol issue didn't help any...

Boomah  :shaka:

Bunker

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2014, 08:28:26 PM »
Well Hornady will be happy...

I'm not sure it's only due to the 5.45 pistol, I'm betting there's more going on here, but I'm sure the pistol issue didn't help any...

Boomah  :shaka:
I'm with you...one would be naive to conclude that this all occurred from a Polish 5.45x39 pistol being approved for import in 2011. I can't ever recall seeing any of these 5.45 pistol's imported, which makes me question why only now would they ban 7n6 if the pistol was approved for importation in November 2011, unless it was politically motivated and set aside for the optimum time to pull the trigger. Obviously the BATFE must have known the implication long before now. Furthermore, the 1986 amendment of the GCA is a total crock of shit.

Kuleana

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2014, 10:22:18 AM »
Well Hornady will be happy...

I'm not sure it's only due to the 5.45 pistol, I'm betting there's more going on here, but I'm sure the pistol issue didn't help any...

Boomah  :shaka:

Adding to your great point, we must remember to keep in mind that there maybe more than the ATF and the current Administration that may be involved in the overall liberal agenda of banning imported 5.45x39 as well as, God Forbid, 7.62x39.  I think it can be safe to say that our own domestic ammo manufactures will not loose one night sleep, if the importation of both calibers does happen.  This will naturally cause the US market for both imported calibers to either switch to any of their domestically produced caliber offerings or force them to purchase their production of 5.45x39 or 7.62x39, whose prices, of course, be way more expensive than what we currently import.

Kuleana

astroboy

Re: Import ban on 5.45x39?
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2014, 04:10:43 PM »

I found this posted on the ak files. A very interesting letter.

http://www.nraila.org/media/12138422/letter_to_b__todd_jones__-_4-9-2014.pdf