reports of "multiple injuries"

'Active shooter' at Fort Hood military post: http://www.kitv.com/national/source-active-shooter-at-fort-hood-military-base/25291522?absolute=true

Still ongoing.

I am in TX currently, good thing I am not there.

Still ongoing.

Suspect is dead...

A couple of reports are saying that 14 people are injured some of them "gravely".

Fort Hood is a "soldier-on-soldier" incident.. WTH???

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/02/ft-hood-shooting-that-left-four-dead-was-reportedly-soldier-on-soldier-incident/

another shooter on ssri antidepressants 
seems like 9 out of 10 in recent years have been on or "off" their meds.

"no concealed carry on base"
Isn't there a sense of irony in that statement? We obviously were required to be armed overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan...but not on a military installation?

"no concealed carry on base"
Isn't there a sense of irony in that statement? We obviously were required to be armed overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan...but not on a military installation?

Don't worry the government will protect us.  Oh wait we are the government.

4 dead, 14 injured is what's being reported right now. Shooter apparently used a S&W .45 purchased off base. Shot himself when the MP's caught up to him.

One of my family members is stationed there. As soon as I heard the news called him up, lucky he was off post during the shooting. Thank goodness.

4 dead, 14 injured is what's being reported right now. Shooter apparently used a S&W .45 purchased off base. Shot himself when the MP's caught up to him.

Official version is now 3 dead, 16 wounded. Shooter was being treated for non combat related PTSD and a self reported head injury.

"no concealed carry on base"
Isn't there a sense of irony in that statement? We obviously were required to be armed overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan...but not on a military installation?

actually, even in Afghanistan, in a war zone, when on bases, our guys are forbidden from carrying their weapons. and they suffer for it. recall all the the "green-on-blue" attacks? marines murdered by the afghan 'police officers' they were training?  two days in a row in 2012, just to cite a couple?

and panetta and his security team disarming virtually an entire base when he visited Afghanistan?

anyway, the no-carry policy on US domestic military bases dates back to 1993; it was one of Bill Clinton's first acts of anti-gun madness, and all the poor Ford Hood and Navy yard murdered have him to thank for it.

i'm not sure if it went away during Bush and came back during Obama or if it's been in place since 1993, but I figured it's worth mentioning so we don't forget one of the many gifts we got from Bill Clinton.

i'm sure everyone here recognizes this as well but I figured I'd mention it: isnt the madness breathtaking.....to hear on the news reports, as the shooting was unfolding, that the military was advising base personnel to take shelter?  surreal doesn't even come close to describing how bizarre that is; soldiers on a military base being advised to take shelter as base police respond, rather then all personnel being allowed to do what they are trained to do-hunt the 'enemy' down and kill him.

a second surreal visual is the footage of local police rushing to respond to a shooting on a military base. I know the cops want to help and all that, but it is still bizarre. You would expect that the military would tell everybody to stay away-civilian and law-enforcement-while the military does what it does best.

A disarmed military base sounds so strange. What if there was mass disaster, looters tried to loot a military base, and the military calls police for help, and police go, "sorry buddy, you're on your own."

Sorry just kidding. Don't really know what I'm rambling about.

I talked to my security manager on what to do if there is a terrorist attack.  They said to lock the doors, hide, and call the police.  I'm like, for real?

You can see it from both sides.  On one side, people should have the right and ability to protect themselves where ever they are, and be able to stop things like this.   
However the leaders have to take responsibility for it in the event someone has a ND or is drunk and fires off rounds.  Civilian world, if a CCW has a ND, then the only person blamed is the shooter.

On the other hand, they will not pursue CCW on base because there willl be no direct blame to the leadership because it will be blamed on the shooter, mental health issues, and how he got the gun.  The leadership will be praised for security measures implemented since the gunman was put down (although 15-20 minutes response time).  So there is no pressure to implement CCW.  Sure 3 innocent people died, but the leaders won't take any direct blame for the incident. 

Responsibility for what happened rests squarely on the shooter, Ivan Lopez.

We should all accept this fact, say a prayer for those killed or wounded, and be thankful it wasn't much worse. Arguing procedures, policies, and politics is plain stupid.

Responsibility for what happened rests squarely on the shooter, Ivan Lopez.

We should all accept this fact, say a prayer for those killed or wounded, and be thankful it wasn't much worse. Arguing procedures, policies, and politics is plain stupid.

are you for real?
"Arguing procedures, policies, and politics is plain stupid."?
"Responsibility for what happened rests squarely on the shooter, Ivan Lopez."?
what bubble do you live in?
sick, counter-intuitive procedures and policies are set the way they are, such that innocent people wind up maimed or dead (civilian AND military)....precisely BECAUSE of the mass hysteria of the f'ing leftist gun-control agenda; an agenda that is so pervasively infectious and sick that politicians and military bureaucrats bow to it and impose it upon civilians and military.........MILITARY!!! an entity that is fundamentally about trained, ARMED soldiers!  and they impose it SOLELY to pander to and garner votes from lobbyists and constituents; knowing it will NEVER make people safer; KNOWING it will ONLY do the opposite; knowingly putting their careers before our lives!!!  a most loathsome evil!
so no. NO!! the responsibility rests not only on Lopez but equally upon those who make policy/law that disarms people - soldier or civilian - and allows them to be helplessly murdered DEAD! 
the dead; the murderer; the politicians and bureaucrats who create the environment that allows the murderer to carry out his act and leaves the victims unable to defend themselves; they are all inextricably linked, and the murderers and law/policy/procedure makers are equally guilty!
just ask Suzanna Hupp. the only person in the history of such grotesque events, who ever had the 'balls' to say this to politicians'/legislators' faces!
with all due respect.

are you for real?
"Arguing procedures, policies, and politics is plain stupid."?
"Responsibility for what happened rests squarely on the shooter, Ivan Lopez."?
what bubble do you live in?
sick, counter-intuitive procedures and policies are set the way they are, such that innocent people wind up maimed or dead (civilian AND military)....precisely BECAUSE of the mass hysteria of the f'ing leftist gun-control agenda; an agenda that is so pervasively infectious and sick that politicians and military bureaucrats bow to it and impose it upon civilians and military.........MILITARY!!! an entity that is fundamentally about trained, ARMED soldiers!  and they impose it SOLELY to pander to and garner votes from lobbyists and constituents; knowing it will NEVER make people safer; KNOWING it will ONLY do the opposite; knowingly putting their careers before our lives!!!  a most loathsome evil!
so no. NO!! the responsibility rests not only on Lopez but equally upon those who make policy/law that disarms people - soldier or civilian - and allows them to be helplessly murdered DEAD! 
the dead; the murderer; the politicians and bureaucrats who create the environment that allows the murderer to carry out his act and leaves the victims unable to defend themselves; they are all inextricably linked, and the murderers and law/policy/procedure makers are equally guilty!
just ask Suzanna Hupp. the only person in the history of such grotesque events, who ever had the 'balls' to say this to politicians'/legislators' faces!
with all due respect.

+1 

Where were the tanks?! For God sake Ft. Hood had the appropriate equipment and training to deal with ONE shooter and for that matter the Army has basic indoctrination to KILL! KILL! KILL!
WTF? "Shelter in place"?