Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range? (Read 22605 times)

macsak

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2014, 11:19:52 PM »
DONT IGNORE THIS ONE. its a big one!  :shaka: O0

that's what i told her

suka

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2014, 04:19:30 AM »
They (RO) don't like belts feds! ???
5rds per link. :(

Jdelacruz

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 05:29:54 AM »
Is your wife a new shooter? I would talk to the RO about it. When I took my daughter shooting for the first time I was right behind her watching her every move ready to intervene if needed.

No Mas

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2014, 05:52:31 AM »
Bring a target.  RO's won't let you shoot, if you don't have a target.

You can shoot a metal target at 50 yards with a .22LR only.  Metal targets will have to be set at 100 yards for any rifle with a caliber larger than .22LR.

You can also shoot a handgun, along with your rifle.  The handgun must have a scope on it.

nathanm14fan

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2014, 07:17:14 AM »
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You could do what blkdrgn said above, or what I will normally do if I have a full mag waiting when a cease fire is called I will put it in my pocket and take it down range or behind the yellow line with me. I think the main think the RO's would be trying to prevent by not having loaded mags/clips on the bench during the cease fire would be someone being easily able to load and fire a weapon when folks are down range.

I believe this is a non-issue. Been going to Koko Head for many years, and never had an RSO ask for this, or seen anyone warned over having loaded mags on the bench. The range rules also have nothing requiring this. I tend to load several mags before a shooting a string, typically whatever is necessary to load a full box of 20/30 rounds depending on the caliber. Having to stop, break cheek weld, and load 5 rounds in a single mag per evolution gets old very quick.

Now trying to load more than 5 rounds in a mag, that is a different story: they get after that pretty quick. Ask me how I know, did that the first time I went and never did it again.  :oops:

dafrtknocker

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2014, 09:06:51 AM »
Pistol side, I had RO pick up loaded mags off bench, then return them when you get back from changing your target.

Funtimes

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2014, 11:16:30 AM »
I believe this is a non-issue. Been going to Koko Head for many years, and never had an RSO ask for this, or seen anyone warned over having loaded mags on the bench. The range rules also have nothing requiring this. I tend to load several mags before a shooting a string, typically whatever is necessary to load a full box of 20/30 rounds depending on the caliber. Having to stop, break cheek weld, and load 5 rounds in a single mag per evolution gets old very quick.

Now trying to load more than 5 rounds in a mag, that is a different story: they get after that pretty quick. Ask me how I know, did that the first time I went and never did it again.  :oops:

The policy and/or practice for the range is no loaded magazines on the bench during  cease fire. All ammo is supposed to be away from the firearm and it's components.   This is standard practice among many public type ranges, not just kokohead.
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s197

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2014, 11:32:53 AM »
Is your wife a new shooter? I would talk to the RO about it. When I took my daughter shooting for the first time I was right behind her watching her every move ready to intervene if needed.

Yup brand new shooter.  We've gone through gun function multiple times at home and I'll have her field strip it before we go but I know it's a little different once everything is live.  Since I can stand behind her I think I'll do that.

Bring a target.  RO's won't let you shoot, if you don't have a target.

You can shoot a metal target at 50 yards with a .22LR only.  Metal targets will have to be set at 100 yards for any rifle with a caliber larger than .22LR.

You can also shoot a handgun, along with your rifle.  The handgun must have a scope on it.

Yeah still have to build my target.  Trying to figure out how long to make it and still have it fit in my car.  If anyone has any good plans and wouldn't mind sharing  :)

I think eventually we may pick up a .22LR so we can shoot on the silhouette side.  Sounds like fun.

Now trying to load more than 5 rounds in a mag, that is a different story: they get after that pretty quick. Ask me how I know, did that the first time I went and never did it again.  :oops:

Guess I better take mine off the stripper clips.  I don't really get the 5 per mag rule, at least mags (AR mags at least) have gone back to normal prices now.

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Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2014, 01:03:36 PM »
I think eventually we may pick up a .22LR so we can shoot on the silhouette side.  Sounds like fun.

Shooting the silly side is good fun. Its is privately run, so there is a small fee.(well worth it)
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nathanm14fan

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2014, 02:44:58 PM »
Guess I better take mine off the stripper clips.  I don't really get the 5 per mag rule, at least mags (AR mags at least) have gone back to normal prices now.

Don't worry about taking it off the stripper clips. I keep my 5.56 loaded on them and just use the speedloader slowly to load 5.

nathanm14fan

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2014, 02:57:33 PM »
The policy and/or practice for the range is no loaded magazines on the bench during  cease fire. All ammo is supposed to be away from the firearm and it's components.   This is standard practice among many public type ranges, not just kokohead.

Must be one of the those unwritten "rules", because its not in the list of rules for Kokohead posted on the website. Been using Kokohead since 2007 and public and private ranges in SoCal since 2000. Never once have I been asked by an RSO, or seen anyone asked by an RSO to empty a loaded mag prior to walking away from the firing line during a ceasefire. I don't keep them right next to the rifle, but they are plainly visible and on the same table as the firearm. This counts for the silhouette side in addition to the rifle side.
 

Jl808

Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2014, 05:49:05 PM »
YG sells a tall rifle target about 4 ft tall that you can stack about 3 of those square "shoot n see" targets.

My suggestion on target height is about 2/3 of that so it's easier to store in the car. You don't really need it that tall.

I plan to chop mine off to 2/3 the height when I have a chance.

Here is a pic of the YG rifle target frame (unmodified).

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dogman

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2014, 06:12:14 PM »
Must be one of the those unwritten "rules", because its not in the list of rules for Kokohead posted on the website. Been using Kokohead since 2007 and public and private ranges in SoCal since 2000. Never once have I been asked by an RSO, or seen anyone asked by an RSO to empty a loaded mag prior to walking away from the firing line during a ceasefire. I don't keep them right next to the rifle, but they are plainly visible and on the same table as the firearm. This counts for the silhouette side in addition to the rifle side.
Pistol side, I had RO pick up loaded mags off bench, then return them when you get back from changing your target.
I've had loaded mags on the bench in plain view at the rifle side during cease fire with no comments by RSO. On the pistol side I was told to take the loaded mags off the bench and keep them behind the line during cease fire by RSO.

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Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2014, 09:02:21 PM »
Do you have to bring your gun registration? Do they check?

macsak

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2014, 09:06:10 PM »
Do you have to bring your gun registration? Do they check?

i've never seen them check

nathanm14fan

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2014, 09:29:40 PM »
On the pistol side I was told to take the loaded mags off the bench and keep them behind the line during cease fire by RSO.

dogman, good to know. I have never been to the pistol side, only rifle/silhouette.  :shaka:

nathanm14fan

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2014, 09:33:04 PM »
Do you have to bring your gun registration? Do they check?

Never been asked for it. The Kokohead rules state that you can't bring an unregistered post-June 1994 longarm to the range, so technically I wouldn't bring a new purchase to the range before registering it.

dustoff003

Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2014, 09:52:55 PM »
Do you have to bring your gun registration? Do they check?

I have never seen them check at KHSC. The only place that I have shot at that checked was Waikiki Gun Range. Me personally I would not keep a copy of my registration as issued with my firearms because it has a lot of personally identifiable information on it. I would keep a heavily redacted copy though. With a Name, DOB and SSN you can thief an identity.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2014, 10:00:04 PM by dustoff003 »

No Mas

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2014, 10:57:02 PM »
Yup brand new shooter.  We've gone through gun function multiple times at home and I'll have her field strip it before we go but I know it's a little different once everything is live.  Since I can stand behind her I think I'll do that.

Yeah still have to build my target.  Trying to figure out how long to make it and still have it fit in my car.  If anyone has any good plans and wouldn't mind sharing  :)

I think eventually we may pick up a .22LR so we can shoot on the silhouette side.  Sounds like fun.

Guess I better take mine off the stripper clips.  I don't really get the 5 per mag rule, at least mags (AR mags at least) have gone back to normal prices now.

Silhouette side is $5 per person.  For rifles, it's .22LR only, and any size caliber for handguns.

As far as building your frame for the rifle side, you can make it any height you want.  Just follow the rifle frame diagram on the KHSC site, and make sure the legs are 12 1/2" on center.  Taper the legs so they are round at the bottom.  You might want to bring a hand planer on your first visit, just in case you need to taper the legs a little more.  There's a target setup by the office where you can check to see if your frame will fit in the holder, before you walk out to the field during a cease fire to set up your target.

aieahound

Re: Any advice for a 1st timer to Koko Head range?
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2014, 09:12:14 AM »
RE: new frames:

Make sure your bottom leg frame is rounded off.
+1
Not too much though.

Or take a knife with you to make sure the corners of the frame can be whittled down little.
 I take a knife out with me when setting new frames.
Never can be too prepared when putting a square peg into a round hole.

And I haven't been flagged on the rifle side for having loaded mags on the bench during cease fire, but maybe I've just been lucky.
Didn't even know about this rule.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 09:49:22 AM by aieahound »