If they did have a CCW here for a fee what is the most you would pay biannually?    I personally would pay like up to 2k biannually how about y'all?

I would pay for the administrative costs for obtaining a CCW permit...why should we pay extra for a right to defend ourselves

I wouldn't mind spending 100 to 200 bucks a year.

Any professional license costs between 100-200 dollars a year to have.

And since I'm a professional, I'd be willing to pay. 

I would pay for the administrative costs for obtaining a CCW permit...why should we pay extra for a right to defend ourselves

Retired LEO's pay a $500 fee yearly to obtain there CCW here in Hawaii.   So taking that into account a  $1000 fee for annual CCW for a civilian doesn't seem all that odd.  . I am sure there  are thousands of law abiding citizens that are willing to pay that fee to protect themselves. 

Quote from: ren on May 19, 2011, 08:52:30 PM

I would pay for the administrative costs for obtaining a CCW permit...why should we pay extra for a right to defend ourselves

Retired LEO's pay a $500 fee yearly to obtain there CCW here in Hawaii.   So taking that into account a  $1000 fee for annual CCW for a civilian doesn't seem all that odd.  . I am sure there are at least a thousand law abiding citizens that are willing to pay that fee to protect themselves.

 

SORRY DOUBLE POST.

Nothing! why pay to exercise a constitutional right? I would rather pay to support court challenges to these unconstitutional laws.

I don't think we should pay.............but then again, I would pay up to $150 a year or $500 for a lifetime fee  like a membership...

Not to offend anyone here and I agree that we shouldn't have to pay to exercise our constitutional rights but if the question were " Hawaii will allow you conceal carry for $500 annually" would you pay or stand there grumbling about not having to pay for your rights?

The state would stand to make hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars in fees. This might just be what sways the law makers to pass a law allowing concealed carry. (because we all know our conceal permit process is bovine excrement)

I've probably already paid well over 3-4k dollars just to attempt to get a permit, pretty sure I would pay a fairly decent amount if I knew I could get one.

There are some programs being looked at to issue LEO credentials to people -- and they are looking at charging about 1,000-3,000 dollars (for everything you need).

Like the whole "medicinal" and "equal rights marriage" thingy, money always frees up anything nowadays.... I apologize if I offended anyone by calling those things a "thingy"

I would not want to have to pay anything for our constitutional right to defend oneself and one's family!
That's just wrong.
I could see admin fees, bit that's about it.

Quote from: ren on May 19, 2011, 08:52:30 PM

I would pay for the administrative costs for obtaining a CCW permit...why should we pay extra for a right to defend ourselves

Retired LEO's pay a $500 fee yearly to obtain there CCW here in Hawaii.   So taking that into account a  $1000 fee for annual CCW for a civilian doesn't seem all that odd.  . I am sure there  are thousands of law abiding citizens that are willing to pay that fee to protect themselves.

I agree with ren about paying administrative fees.  I do feel that $1,000/yr is too much especially since retired LEO's are only paying $500. Hell I think $500 is too much.

I agree with ren about paying administrative fees.  I do feel that $1,000/yr is too much especially since retired LEO's are only paying $500. Hell I think $500 is too much.

Yep. $500 is too much.
Why do retired LEO have to pay that?
Isn't their service to the community enough? Not like they haven't been carrying for all those years. Unreal!

Gotta pay $500/yr to protect themselves from all those crackheads, cronics, and crooks they help put away for those reduced sentences and release programs.

Why do retired LEO have to pay that?
Isn't their service to the community enough? Not like they haven't been carrying for all those years. Unreal!

Gotta pay $500/yr to protect themselves from all those crackheads, cronics, and crooks they help put away for those reduced sentences and release programs.

They don't. No member of my family that retired from (Hawaii) law enforcement has ever paid a fee. If they were in good standing when they RETIRED, they often kept their badge (some have a "retired" badge) and received special HPD/SD credentials. Even my crazy Uncle Wally had one after resigning 2 years short of retirement for "medical" reasons. Keep in mind that Hawaii law enforcement is one big incestuous hui...they take care of their own.

Back on topic...it is wrong to pay anything more than an admin fee for a right. I know what most of you mean by being willing to pay, but that's not the point. The first thing that comes to mind (aside from a fee being unconstitutional) is that a fee would be discriminatory. It's saying that only people with money should be allowed to defend themselves.

Free ninety nine!

Quote from: Heavies on May 20, 2011, 11:59:46 AM

Why do retired LEO have to pay that?
Isn't their service to the community enough? Not like they haven't been carrying for all those years. Unreal!

Gotta pay $500/yr to protect themselves from all those crackheads, cronics, and crooks they help put away for those reduced sentences and release programs.

They don't. No member of my family that retired from (Hawaii) law enforcement has ever paid a fee. If they were in good standing when they RETIRED, they often kept their badge (some have a "retired" badge) and received special HPD/SD credentials. Even my crazy Uncle Wally had one after resigning 2 years short of retirement for "medical" reasons. Keep in mind that Hawaii law enforcement is one big incestuous hui...they take care of their own.

They do, and the hoops they have to jump through to do it are absurd. There was an article in this monthʻs Gun Digest on page 10 about how hard it its for retired police officers to get their retired LEO carry license. The amount of paperwork, the 500 bucks, and then the actual shooting qualification which is stricter than the regular police  requirements. I know of retired HPD who are not willing to go through the hoops and concealed carry ILLEGALLY. Like you said, they have their own little clique and if caught, it will probably get swept under the rug, but does that make it right, legal, or even fair?

With the attitude of not wanting to pay a fee, no were near what retired officers pay I don't think CCW can be a reality for us civilians.    Retired leo's have been fighting to uplift the $500 fee for sometime now.    Its in our constitutional right to bear arms, but to conceal carry is more of a privilege.

With the attitude of not wanting to pay a fee, no were near what retired officers pay I don't think CCW can be a reality for us civilians.    Retired leo's have been fighting to uplift the $500 fee for sometime now.    Its in our constitutional right to bear arms, but to conceal carry is more of a privilege.

I agree.

It's funny how people whine about not being able to conceal carry but won't even think about paying a little fee to do so.

Could you try to become a police officer for a very short time, then switch back to your normal job, in order to obtain LE carry benefits?

Could you try to become a police officer for a very short time, then switch back to your normal job, in order to obtain LE carry benefits?

You need to retire with at least 10 years by (fed law), but HPD is giving people with less than 20 years a hard time in getting the ID card that is required for LEO Carry.

An idea that is progressing is the purchasing and incorporation of a city on the mainland area.  That city then hires police officers and puts them on administrative leave.  You retain your LEO status, but not your powers of arrest.  The plan is that they would charge a fee -- 1,000 -2000 dollars for this whole process or something to pay for all the paperwork.  Once you are a "leo" for a city, you can legally ccw everywhere.

Some training requirements are required to be met though.