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Fumigation
« on: June 07, 2014, 05:54:02 PM »
Landlord told me, my residence is going to be fumigated.
After doing some research, all safes,lockers,cabinets, drawers have to be left open.
The fumigation company needs keys to the residence.
So what am I to do with my firearms?
Im not going to leave them unsecured, guessing I can't take the entire collection to a hotel...
Any suggestions?
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Jdelacruz

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2014, 07:10:16 PM »
Landlord told me, my residence is going to be fumigated.
After doing some research, all safes,lockers,cabinets, drawers have to be left open.
The fumigation company needs keys to the residence.
So what am I to do with my firearms?
Im not going to leave them unsecured, guessing I can't take the entire collection to a hotel...
Any suggestions?

If you have a relative with a safe I'd loan them your long guns and just take your handguns to the hotel.

dustoff003

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2014, 09:00:03 PM »
Maybe your favorite LGS would be willing to mind them for you are displaced?

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Re: Fumigation
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2014, 09:42:40 PM »
If you have a relative with a safe I'd loan them your long guns and just take your handguns to the hotel.

No realatives on island...was thinking of a friend.
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mauidog

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2014, 09:52:06 PM »
No realatives on island...was thinking of a friend.

Have your wife take out a TRO on you.  HPD will solve your problem for free!

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macsak

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2014, 09:52:24 PM »
No realatives on island...was thinking of a friend.

we all obey all laws on this board, mr. stomper
i don't recommend you do anything illegal
i know i never would knowingly break any laws, and neither would any other members here

Jdelacruz

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2014, 10:18:47 PM »
Rifles and shotguns may be loaned for a maximum of 15 days to persons lawfully able to possess.

Here's the HRS.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0004.htm

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Any lawfully acquired rifle or shotgun may be lent to an adult for use within the State for a period not to exceed fifteen days without a permit; provided that where the rifle or shotgun is to be used outside of the State, the loan may be for a period not to exceed seventy-five days.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2014, 10:26:05 PM by Jdelacruz »

kekoa

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 03:47:33 AM »
Tell 'em just like it is…" I got guns, there in the safe I ain't leaving it open and your not getting the key"

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Re: Fumigation
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2014, 06:33:11 AM »
I say do a combo, take all the pistols with you to the hotel and have a friend or 2 hold on to a few long guns. 

I remember a story about someone having some work or tenting done to a home, only to receive a phone call that the entire safe was stolen.  IIRC I read that here somewhere, not sure if it was just a news article from another state or it actually happened locally.

SLORYDSTANG

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2014, 08:43:42 AM »
Best bet is 1.) to take your  weapons with you. 2) leave them with a "TRUSTED" family member or friend, 3.) see if you LGS is willing to "hold" them for you. Theft at fumigation jobs is pretty common.

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Re: Fumigation
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2014, 09:24:33 AM »
we all obey all laws on this board, mr. stomper
i don't recommend you do anything illegal
i know i never would knowingly break any laws, and neither would any other members here

Let me rephrase...was thinking of  friend(s) who work at gun shops and have FFL connections.


Rifles and shotguns may be loaned for a maximum of 15 days to persons lawfully able to possess.

Here's the HRS.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0004.htm


I was thinking something along these lines for the long guns....
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Walena

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2014, 02:01:55 PM »
Is your house being tented?

A few years ago. my house had to be tented for termites. I had to open all cabinets, drawers, and closets according to a list I was given. No mention of safes being left open. All safes were left secured. The windows had to be left open and doors unlocked. They would put their own lock on the doors.

I stayed with them while they covered up the house, locked up, then turned on the gas.

I stayed outside doing yard work the rest of the day, along with setting up a canopy tent, a lounge chair, grill, cooler, and radio about 30 feet back from the house in the yard. Then I camped out.

Did periodic checks throughout the night until they came back in the morning to remove the tent.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 02:27:38 PM by Walena »

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Re: Fumigation
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2014, 02:48:44 PM »


Yes, the house is being tented.
The fumigation company will put the tent up Fri. afternoon and take it down Mon. afternoon.
A hotel might be provided by the landlord, and no possibility of camping out.
The wife might be there to supervise .?
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SLORYDSTANG

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2014, 05:27:33 PM »
Wow!!! Friday to Monday!??!?!?!- Normally it's a 1 day deal,  4 days seems excessive!  No offense but-I've heard of owners tent fumigating  to rid themselves of horrible tenants, mostly because the home owner failed to have a rental contract.  There is no way they are going to shoot gas over a 3-4 day period.  May want to confirm the times with your landlord. You also want to pack your valuables as well as document your electronics.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 07:03:06 PM by SLORYDSTANG »

mauidog

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2014, 07:17:07 PM »
Wow!!! Friday to Monday!??!?!?!- Normally it's a 1 day deal,  4 days seems excessive!  No offense but-I've heard of owners tent fumigating  to rid themselves of horrible tenants, mostly because the home owner failed to have a rental contract.  There is no way they are going to shoot gas over a 3-4 day period.  May want to confirm the times with your landlord. You also want to pack your valuables as well as document your electronics.

I believe it depends on what time of day they start.  Stomper said Friday afternoon.  I was told with my last tenting if I started by 9AM Friday, they could be done Sat afternoon (1 1/2 days). 

They have to remove the tent, give it time to air out, then test for safety.  If it fails, you still have to stay out a little longer.  They really can't control how quickly every house or apartment will air out.

If they don't work on Sundays, and they tented late Friday, Monday isn't that farfetched.
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SLORYDSTANG

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2014, 10:53:02 PM »
Sorry to say 3-4 days being covered is just asking to be robbed.

808shooter

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2014, 11:30:38 AM »
Exactly what i would do.  Down-wind of course, dont want to grow a third arm

Is your house being tented?

A few years ago. my house had to be tented for termites. I had to open all cabinets, drawers, and closets according to a list I was given. No mention of safes being left open. All safes were left secured. The windows had to be left open and doors unlocked. They would put their own lock on the doors.

I stayed with them while they covered up the house, locked up, then turned on the gas.

I stayed outside doing yard work the rest of the day, along with setting up a canopy tent, a lounge chair, grill, cooler, and radio about 30 feet back from the house in the yard. Then I camped out.

Did periodic checks throughout the night until they came back in the morning to remove the tent.

Rocky

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2014, 02:39:11 PM »
Landlord told me, my residence is going to be fumigated.
After doing some research, all safes,lockers,cabinets, drawers have to be left open.
The fumigation company needs keys to the residence.
So what am I to do with my firearms?
Im not going to leave them unsecured, guessing I can't take the entire collection to a hotel...
Any suggestions?

Hey Stomper
 Ironically, as I was reading your post, I was having my houses measured for tenting so I hit him up.

    Spoke to my guy and he says the only way you'd need to open your safe for them would be to make sure no one was in it.
Also noted "besides, it's none of their business" and "you do not have to declare having a safe" !
Common to open all drawers doors cabinets, closets etc...

    They do not need keys to your house he said as they put their own locks (covers your lock/knob) on just to make sure that no one re-enters after gas has been used but ironically, "usually have a few windows open to make sure gas surrounds exterior of house".
You just need to be there to unlock the house after they remove their knob cover.
If you have a dead bolt and door knob lock, you could give them just the door knob key  and not the deadbolt.

But the biggest question kept asking  was " Who is doing the tenting?".

I will be on property during tenting with my little motion detector horns.
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Re: Fumigation
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2014, 04:37:48 PM »
Thanks for all the input guys.
I still need to get more details from the landlord and possibly call the fumigator.
Not even sure I have a place to stay yet.  :o
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macsak

Re: Fumigation
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2014, 04:41:03 PM »
Thanks for all the input guys.
I still need to get more details from the landlord and possibly call the fumigator.
Not even sure I have a place to stay yet.  :o

there's this place nearby you where you can stay
they even have chicken wings and tenders to eat