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dogman

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2014, 11:32:15 AM »
I haven't used this yet. The gong is 4" in front of the stand. The eye bolts are from Home Depot.
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yurcarmeean

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2014, 11:51:48 AM »
 :thumbsup:
Quote from: dogman on June 22, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
I haven't used this yet. The gong is 4" in front of the stand. The eye bolts are from Home Depot.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  let us know how it goes!   
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gt1_911

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2014, 07:41:37 PM »
Quote from: yurcarmeean on June 22, 2014, 03:45:45 AM
interesting design  :thumbsup: and not bad $40 + s&h for the last stand + cost of 6 - 6' rebar + chains, gong, and connectors and nuts and bolts = ~$100

do you get a lot of wiggle from the frame when the gong gets hit?

Yes it wiggles but I have yet to tip it over shooting 308. Here is a link done by 8541 Tactical shooting the set up at less than 100 yards.
http://8541tactical.com/2013/12/31/the-last-stand-review/
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BLKDRGN

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2014, 09:05:33 PM »
Quote from: mauidog on June 21, 2014, 09:36:51 PM
You're looking at the back of the legs.  The hardware was attached to the back of the legs, so the targets were basically flush with the rear of the frame.  Except for the top target hanging from the top cross bar.

Based on the level of damage, I'd have to hang the targets at least 2-3 inches behind the frame, and I'd need something like a metal bracket to suspend them.

Whatever the targets are suspended from is going to get hit, right? 

If anything, I'd think having the targets in front of the frame would be better, since the splash would deflect at a forward angle?

I have a couple of old bed frames made of steel I was going to try and use.  Haven't taken the time to really look at how to do that, but seems like a good recycling project!

Reverse the horizontal braces so it's on the back side. That will make the eye screws hang the chains behind the legs. The target backing will only attach on the vertical frame and not on all four sides but not a big deal. I've tested it multiple times with .308 and .338 and not a scratch on the legs. I have steel on the legs in this pic but i've tested it without it and no problem.

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BLKDRGN

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2014, 09:10:58 PM »
Quote from: dogman on June 22, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
I haven't used this yet. The gong is 4" in front of the stand. The eye bolts are from Home Depot.

I like this gong style. Kinda tired of blowing off chains and links if someone misses. Let us know how you like it and how it reacts when you hit close to the left or right edge. Wondering if the spin is going to affect the eye bolts.
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Sturmgeschutz

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2014, 10:06:58 PM »
This beast was made from scrap and $5 in hardware
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yurcarmeean

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2014, 05:35:03 PM »
Quote from: Sturmgeschutz on June 22, 2014, 10:06:58 PM
This beast was made from scrap and $5 in hardware
nice design   :thumbsup:  i could totally construct this
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Frog

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2014, 03:05:34 PM »
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This is why i dont like shooting next to guys with plates. My paper targets always gets trashed from the splash of hitting the gong. 
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dogman

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2014, 08:38:38 PM »
Quote from: dogman on June 22, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
I haven't used this yet. The gong is 4" in front of the stand. The eye bolts are from Home Depot.

Obviously not AR500 plate. Since this was an experiment I used 3/8" mild steel. The gong swings freely where ever it was hit, no problems with the eye bolts. There is some frame damage from edge strikes. Next step is to make one from AR500.
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Heavies

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2014, 11:42:52 PM »
Shooting at mild steel with high powered rifles is asking for trouble.  All we need is for someone to get hit by a ricochet and its all over.  If you all are going to shoot steel, do it right, get the right steel and use the appropriate ammo.
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dogman

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2014, 06:55:04 AM »
I told the RO it was just mild steel and I was using 223 FMJ before taking it out and he didn't have a problem with it.  They asked me to show it to them when I was done so they could see how the system worked. They thought the gong would've been in worse shape then it was.
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Heavies

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2014, 08:50:27 AM »
The pits and dents can cause projectiles to bounce and curve in unpredictable direction.  Better to have armor steel so the target does not dent or pierce, the bullet can flatten, then bounce straight down, when target swings.
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Heavies

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2014, 08:51:35 AM »
Also, do not use steel jacketed or steel core ammo.  Steel cores or jackets can come back at the line and kill someone.
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dogman

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2014, 08:18:56 PM »
Quote from: Heavies on June 29, 2014, 08:51:35 AM
Also, do not use steel jacketed or steel core ammo.  Steel cores or jackets can come back at the line and kill someone.
Quote from: Heavies on June 29, 2014, 08:50:27 AM
The pits and dents can cause projectiles to bounce and curve in unpredictable direction.  Better to have armor steel so the target does not dent or pierce, the bullet can flatten, then bounce straight down, when target swings.
Appreciate the advice  :shaka: Better to be safe. . .
I do have customers at the shop I work at buy steel plates for targets, I will now highly recommend against it.
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Heavies

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2014, 12:26:39 PM »
No prob...  shoot safe and have fun! :thumbsup: :shaka:
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numbertwo

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2014, 07:18:57 PM »
I to get excited about possibly using scrap metal to make gongs but it looks like I won't be using them  :-\

Better safe than sorry though. Thanks for sharing that important piece of advice.


I dont' suppose there are any local shops here to buy the appropriate steel for shooting? I'd only be using .22lr and 223/556.
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Heavies

Re: Metal targets/plates questions
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2014, 10:41:31 PM »
Quote from: numbertwo on June 30, 2014, 07:18:57 PM
I to get excited about possibly using scrap metal to make gongs but it looks like I won't be using them  :-\

Better safe than sorry though. Thanks for sharing that important piece of advice.


I dont' suppose there are any local shops here to buy the appropriate steel for shooting? I'd only be using .22lr and 223/556.

Mild steel is fine for .22lr, any centerfire rifle, I wouldn't.  It'll just pit or pierce the steel badly.
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