Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot... (Read 11399 times)

rustyeleio

You may not agree with everything he says but everything he states after 4:10 pretty much sum up the situation.

rustyeleio

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 02:35:56 AM »
More "innocent Hamas shenanigans" right in the shadow of a UN building.   :wtf:

Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 07:45:52 AM »
I saw this and shared it too. 

Seems most everyone in the world recognizes Israel's right to protect itself, except for the obama administration, and the UN.   :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

This, to me, shows how ASS BACKWARDS these liberals think, act, and behave, making the world a more dangerous and deadly place.  All in the name of chasing their unicorn and butterfly utopian socialist vision.

hvybarrels

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 08:35:39 AM »
most of the rest of the world sees what game Israel is playing by continually breaking the peace agreements and doing its best to ethnically cleanse its Arab problem. It is only a handful of American and British propaganda victims who think that 40 Israeli soldiers lives are worth more than 1000+ Palestinian civilians. States and religions should never be confused. Most of the time it results in a false reality that leads to lots of dead children.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 09:18:03 AM »
most of the rest of the world sees what game Israel is playing by continually breaking the peace agreements and doing its best to ethnically cleanse its Arab problem. It is only a handful of American and British propaganda victims who think that 40 Israeli soldiers lives are worth more than 1000+ Palestinian civilians. States and religions should never be confused. Most of the time it results in a false reality that leads to lots of dead children.

Oh come on.....  The Hamas terrorists break the peace and cease fires, they launch thousands of rockets indiscriminately, they PLACE CHILDERN AND CIVILIANS PURPOSEFULLY in the line of fire.

hvybarrels

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 10:53:50 AM »
It's difficult to imagine what extremes some people might go to if they found themselves on the wrong side of an ethnic cleansing campaign.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/24/a-refreshingly-open-call-for-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-from-an-israeli-deputy-speaker/

Ok maybe not that difficult any more.
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Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 04:36:00 PM »
What kind of article is that?  Some kind of anti Semitic propaganda piece.  The author sounds really anti Jew. 

If Israel wanted to destroy Gaza it would have done it, completely and utterly, as soon as Hamas RESTARTED HOSTILITIES.   

They would have and could have a long time ago, so I don't know where you are attempting to take this.

zippz

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 05:09:07 PM »

Oh come on.....  The Hamas terrorists break the peace and cease fires, they launch thousands of rockets indiscriminately, they PLACE CHILDERN AND CIVILIANS PURPOSEFULLY in the line of fire.

Hamas has no choice.  If they fought a regular war with isreal, it would be over in 15 minutes.

mauidog

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 06:25:39 PM »
Hamas has no choice.  If they fought a regular war with isreal, it would be over in 15 minutes.

How about they stop their terrorist attacks?  That sounds like a choice to me...

But that would never achieve their stated objective, namely kill all Jews and wipe Israel off the map.

I guess you're right.  They don't have a choice.   :wacko:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 06:50:31 PM »
Hamas has no choice.  If they fought a regular war with isreal, it would be over in 15 minutes.

If Israel wanted to, Hamas or no, it would be over in 15mins.

Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 09:40:50 PM »

Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 09:42:56 PM »

hvybarrels

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2014, 04:00:41 AM »
The list of demands for the latest cease fire:

   
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Withdrawal of Israeli tanks from the Gaza border.

    Freeing all the prisoners that were arrested after the killing of the three youths.

    Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people.

    Establishing an international seaport and airport which would be under U.N. supervision.

    Increasing the permitted fishing zone to 10 kilometers.

    Internationalizing the Rafah Crossing and placing it under the supervision of the U.N. and some Arab nations.

    International forces on the borders.

    Easing conditions for permits to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque.

    Prohibition on Israeli interference in the reconciliation agreement.

    Reestablishing an industrial zone and improvements in further economic development in the Gaza Strip.

Not entirely unreasonable or even remotely anti-Semetic. That's probably the reason why American media has chosen to ignore it along with the Israeli parliment member's call for genocide as our politicians pay lip service to peace agreements while handing out billions of dollars in weapons in warfare welfare. You can put away that race card now.
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mauidog

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2014, 09:16:51 AM »
The list of demands for the latest cease fire:

   
Not entirely unreasonable or even remotely anti-Semetic. That's probably the reason why American media has chosen to ignore it along with the Israeli parliment member's call for genocide as our politicians pay lip service to peace agreements while handing out billions of dollars in weapons in warfare welfare. You can put away that race card now.

And what do the Israelis receive in exchange for acquiescing to these "reasonable" demands?
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2014, 09:46:57 AM »
And what do the Israelis receive in exchange for acquiescing to these "reasonable" demands?

More rockets

mauidog

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2014, 10:29:42 AM »
More rockets

Exactly!  No matter what the Israelis agree to, it will never end the terrorist attacks.  Never. 

Look at all the things Israel has given up (the Gaza Strip in 2005 comes to mind). Each time Israel tries to live in peace by giving in to the demands of these terrorists, it's a short term peace. 

Until Hamas learns it  can not profit from the indiscriminate launching of missiles into Israel, they will continue to start wars they can't win and hold their own people hostage until some new demands are met.

You cannot negotiate with terrorists.  They will not stop as long as there is the chance their demands will be met.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

rustyeleio

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2014, 10:31:25 AM »
This is how I read the peace demand list

    Withdrawal of Israeli tanks from the Gaza border. 
Yes, fantastic idea.  Let's make it easier for Hamas and other armies to destroy Israel.  Once Israel is wiped out, the conflict will be over.  Why didn't anyone think of this earlier.

    Freeing all the prisoners that were arrested after the killing of the three youths. 
Release combatants that will return to bite Israel in the ass later.  This stroke of genius must have come from the Obama administration.

    Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people. 
Because we all know that all Hamas and Palestine wanted was open trading with Israel.  "Why won't you sell us that SodaStream thing, we hear its great? We gonna kill you because of that!" Nothing to do with wanting the entire country gone and all its people dead.  Just commerce, I had it wrong all this time.

    Establishing an international seaport and airport which would be under U.N. supervision. 
I don't know about the rest of you, but I get the warm fuzzy whenever I hear that the UN will take over security.  Just look at how effective they were at controlling the Hamas rockets being launched next to their building in Gaza.

    Increasing the permitted fishing zone to 10 kilometers.

    Internationalizing the Rafah Crossing and placing it under the supervision of the U.N. and some Arab nations. 
UN security, say no more.   And now "Arab nations" being entrusted with the security of Israel.  That is like hiring a drug addict to guard your prescription medicine cabinet.

    International forces on the borders.   
If this means UN forces then...hmmm.  If it means US forces, then they better have the authority to destroy any threat before it destroys our troops.  Peace keeping doesn't mean sacrificial lambs.

    Easing conditions for permits to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque. 
This has disaster written all over it.  Call me paranoid but I think that there is a high probability that many of the "visitors" will have bad intentions.

    Prohibition on Israeli interference in the reconciliation agreement. 
Because really, who would want to have input in negotiations that involve your sovereignty.  That's just silly talk anyway.

    Reestablishing an industrial zone and improvements in further economic development in the Gaza Strip.   
I don't see a problem with this except that Hamas will start hiding weapons and launching attacks from the new buildings and Israel will get blamed for the destruction when they blow the militants to smithereens in their new hideout.  I'm OK with the destroying of the attackers, just don't want to waste the money building stuff for Hamas.

hvybarrels

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 12:32:09 AM »
In the latest operation about 2000 Palestinians along with 60 Israelis. Who's wiping who off the map?
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Heavies

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 06:53:09 AM »
In the latest operation about 2000 Palestinians along with 60 Israelis. Who's wiping who off the map?

Obviously not Israel.  Because Palestine is still there.   If Israel wanted to, Palestine would/could be a glass parking lot at any time.  Pull your head out of your ass dude, and stop watching MSNBC.  Common sense goes a long way.

ren

Re: Video on the Isreal /Palestine conflict that explains a lot...
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 08:31:17 AM »
Palestinians have been the proxy for a lot of nations that want Israel wiped off the map.
The easy end to all this is to just stop shooting rockets and such at Israel.
In other words, don't stick your hand in the tiger's cage - and when you do get bit don't go crying to the libtards of the world
What Palestine is doing is teasing the tiger with a ti leaf and dancing in its cage like a rodeo clown - except this tiger won't hesitate to defend itself against stupid ti leaf holding clown.
Don't go dancing in a tigers cage with ti leaves.
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