Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house? (Read 294645 times)

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2014, 09:13:16 PM »
This sums up perfectly what I wish I could do.

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2014, 11:22:23 PM »
wow.. kinda crazy timing after posting that last vid but...

After setting my traps tonight I was messing around with some of the plants in the patio garden when I hear a *thack splash* 

What was that?

*thack splash* *laughing from what sounds like 3-4 guys*

Go look over the wall and I can see that someone on my side of the stream a couple houses down is shining a weak flashlight along the far banks edge.  I can't see them due to shrubs and bushes between us.

*thack splash* 

ah ha!!  someone has a pellet gun!!  Since they have a weak flashlight and are trying to find the rats I decide to help.

Pull my very bright cree led light out of my pocket (from the videos) and spotlight the far bank looking..  find one and keep the light right on it.

*thack* *high pitch squeal* and the rat runs deep into the undergrowth.  Hear a bit of thrashing then nothing (other than the guys laughing).

  For the next several minutes I keep spotting them as the guy shoots.  He probably shot 6-8 times and for sure hit 3 of them.  It didn't seem like any were insta-kills but the rats acted like they'd been hit.  After a short while they all seemed to go into hiding and I stopped looking after a couple minutes of not seeing any.

It was kinda neat.. spotter and sniper - didn't know each other, couldn't see each other, and didn't talk to each other but it was obvious we were working as a team.


8/31 2 more rats in traps.  BC 45 +1 very dead fat dove this morning in a victor. 

9/1/14  1 month has gone by since I started my little war.  Body count +2 as of this morning.  BC 47
9/2 not even a trap sprung last night. however, sniper guy was out and he got at least 3

9/3 BC 49

9/4 bc 50

9/5 bc 52

9/6  bc 53

9/7 stay 53

9/8  55

9/9 2 traps sprung. None caught.   Bc55

9/10 57
« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 09:28:41 PM by robble1 »

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2014, 09:35:25 PM »
This morning I added ~ .05 to the body count. 

One of the dart tips grabbed on very good and the rat left something behind....


That string looking thing??   

Looks like the central nerve got pulled out!


9/12. 10:18 pm.  Bc +1. 58  (Catches have slowed down dramatically although I still hear and see them)
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 10:20:27 PM by robble1 »

ren

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2014, 05:48:57 PM »
Anyone interested in a rat shoot get together? I have a Benjamin Discovery with TKO. I just need rats to shoot at.
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robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2014, 06:01:51 PM »
Anyone interested in a rat shoot get together? I have a Benjamin Discovery with TKO. I just need rats to shoot at.

While the population has been knocked down a lot right at my place the stream still has plenty.

Also, +1this morning. Bc 59

9/14 bc 60
« Last Edit: September 15, 2014, 07:42:39 AM by robble1 »

robble1

TIFU: Let my woman know more than she should know..
« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2014, 09:59:08 PM »
Bought three more Victor traps today.  Was almost finished modding the first one by putting dart head around the kill bar.  My woman comes by - "what are you doing?"

"modifying the traps so the rats can't escape as easily" - already knowing she wouldn't approve.

Of course she now wants to know more and looks closer at what I'm doing "what are those things"

oh boy..

"sharp pokey things so they can't pull out of the trap easily"

"what!?" "that's cruel!"  "I can't believe this" then leaves the man cave...

comes back a minute later..

"that's horrible!  it's one thing to kill them quickly but that makes them suffer!" - almost in tears.

"ok ok, I won't mod the rest of them"..

Of course that does little good..    She left the room again and is now in the shower.  I fear she is going to have dreams of little impaled animals screaming all night in pain as they slowly die...  because of me.. the monster.

TLDR: Women don't want to know details of how pests are gotten rid of.   That is part of what makes PETA so effective.

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2014, 10:03:17 PM »
Your screwed...I do like the mod idear.

I cant use snap traps cause our neighbors cat roams the neighborhood.   It does its share of killing rats so I leave it alone

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2014, 11:27:29 PM »
9/17 BC 61

Starting to be no catch or even trigger some nights.   I still see them though.

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2014, 09:03:43 AM »
Wow bro that is a large body count.  :popcorn:. Love your updates boss. Keep it up

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2014, 09:27:41 AM »
Wow bro that is a large body count.  :popcorn:. Love your updates boss. Keep it up

I'll keep updating the body count if simply because this has become a log.   I'll also just keep editing my last post so it doesn't bump the thread unless I get a reply.  So just because the thread doesn't bump doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't been updated. 

Last night only 1 of 8 victors and the jaws had been tripped.  The tripped one was one of the new ones that hasn't been modded.    The live trap however had a small rat.

BC 62

9/19 BC 64

9/20am 3 victors sprung. none caught.

Didn't catch anything 21/22. Caught one this morning. BC 65

9/26 bc 66  the catches have really slowed down.

9//27 none caught.  I will only update when I catch now. 
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 03:46:34 PM by robble1 »

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2014, 03:58:05 PM »
My woman took a two-week trip to the mainland so I went to Walmart yesterday and bought a beeman silver kodiak x2 changeable barrel air rifle. I figured if my neighbor could do it without getting in trouble I should be able to also.  However my very first shot sounded like a 22lr even with heavy .22cal lead pellets.  Researched and figured that it probably dieseled and sent the pellet supersonic. I ran some cloth through the barrel (lots of oil in there) and shot it again. This time there wasn't the supersonic crack however it was still pretty damn loud - both pellet exit and spring action.

So I researched how to make it quieter. Now the sound of the pellet exiting the barrel isn't AS loud however the spring is still very loud -  at least for the middle of the night.  It just will not do.  I'm going to return it to Walmart.

I've already ordered a Benjamin trail .22 nitro piston as it is supposed to be quieter.  It should arrive Thursday.   A pcp rifle sounded perfect but the cheapest one is well over $400 and you have to get a $200 pump also.

Also read the rifles get quieter once they break in.  I need a good quiet pellet trap that I can use indoors for a couple hundred shots.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 04:55:45 PM by robble1 »

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #71 on: September 30, 2014, 04:06:30 PM »
This has by far become my favorite running thread. Fun light exciting and entertaining. Keep it up. I say we have a swap meet get together after the 100 one.
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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2014, 04:57:49 PM »
This has by far become my favorite running thread. Fun light exciting and entertaining. Keep it up. I say we have a swap meet get together after the 100 one.

At the rate I was catching them 3 weeks ago I would've predicted 100 by now.   It may be awhile at the current rate to get 100 in the traps.  Although I see them every night I'm not catching even 1 some nights now.  I even have more traps than I started with (9)

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #73 on: September 30, 2014, 07:18:12 PM »
I've already ordered a Benjamin trail .22 nitro piston as it is supposed to be quieter.  It should arrive Thursday.   A pcp rifle sounded perfect but the cheapest one is well over $400 and you have to get a $200 pump also.

Also read the rifles get quieter once they break in.  I need a good quiet pellet trap that I can use indoors for a couple hundred shots.

On the PCP rifle, there is the Benjamin Discovery for a little bit less than $400. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0018LETH0/?tag=2ahawaii-20
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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2014, 08:31:30 PM »
On the PCP rifle, there is the Benjamin Discovery for a little bit less than $400. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0018LETH0/?tag=2ahawaii-20

Thats where I got mine with the pump. It was a package deal at less than $400. It is LOUD without the TKO brake.
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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #75 on: September 30, 2014, 08:42:49 PM »
I suspect if it is REALLY loud then you may be breaking the sound barrier and getting the sonic boom crack. Maybe heavier pellets will slow it down to be quieter.  PyramydAir said this is one of the quietest non pcp guns  http://www.amazon.com/Umarex-2251304-Octane-ReAxis-22-Caliber/  but I'm not sure it'll be very quiet either after reading a lot  of reviews.  seems some think it's loud and some don't.  Maybe the ones who think it's loud are going supersonic.

with the tko brake (and heavy pellets) would the discovery be quiet enough for shooting at midnight with houses packed tight?

just watched this video.   if that is considered quiet i might be out of luck.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 08:54:16 PM by robble1 »

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Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #76 on: September 30, 2014, 10:55:22 PM »
The trail NP is pretty quiet
I have the NP XL and it's much more quiet than any break barrel spring piston

I would be down for a rat hunt
I hate rats!
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 11:22:19 PM by stangzilla »

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2014, 02:49:19 AM »
The trail NP is already on it's way so can't cancel it but I ordered this one tonight:

It's cheaper and seems to be hollywood silencer quiet.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00AU6EAGE/?tag=2ahawaii-20

It uses two co2 cartridges but I'm not going to be shooting 1000's of shots with it.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2014, 08:00:40 AM by robble1 »

ren

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2014, 08:37:00 PM »
I suspect if it is REALLY loud then you may be breaking the sound barrier and getting the sonic boom crack. Maybe heavier pellets will slow it down to be quieter.  PyramydAir said this is one of the quietest non pcp guns  http://www.amazon.com/Umarex-2251304-Octane-ReAxis-22-Caliber/  but I'm not sure it'll be very quiet either after reading a lot  of reviews.  seems some think it's loud and some don't.  Maybe the ones who think it's loud are going supersonic.

with the tko brake (and heavy pellets) would the discovery be quiet enough for shooting at midnight with houses packed tight?

just watched this video.   if that is considered quiet i might be out of luck.

Hmm...not really sure how quiet it is but I did shoot a pest right next to its pal and his/her pal just looked over to see its pal gone. I then followed up with its friend. Mine is a .22 shooting a hollow point - not sure about the weight. It sure is much quieter with the TKO. Without the TKO it sounds like a .22LR.
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robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2014, 11:53:38 PM »
Guess I will find out tomorrow evening. Both of the guns I ordered will be arriving.

I am sure the trail NP will have enough power to do the job but it might be too loud. I'm hoping the fusion will be quiet enough but I am worried about the power there. Expecting ~650-675 fps with 8 grain pellets.  I've no way to measure it though.  I'll just have to see what happens when I shoot a rat.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 09:40:18 AM by robble1 »