Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house? (Read 288654 times)

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #440 on: February 03, 2016, 11:46:08 PM »
 Finally really got to try out the pistol tonight. Too bad it isn't very accurate. I was over by the trash cans and there were probably 30 rats around. I unloaded 19 BBs  within about a minute (probably less).

 I know I hit at least four or five but I have no idea how much damage was caused to them. Im not going to count any kills although surely some died.
 Wish my marauder was smaller and more concealable (and semi-auto would be awesome). BBs just aren't lethal enough for a clean kill - at least not out of this 400fps pistol. Accuracy would be better if the trigger pull wasn't 8-9lbs.  :o. I have a red dot and laser on it but I gotta be braced and slowly - very slowly near the final release  - pull the trigger to be accurate to a quarter at 10'.  Popping off rounds quickly?  Not very accurate. Had a lot of targets in a small area for a few moments though.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2016, 10:59:54 PM by robble1 »

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #441 on: February 10, 2016, 11:04:15 PM »
+2 last night.  one by my house with marauder, 1 by trash with pistol.  Did I mention accuracy on the pistol sucks?  I may take the stock of my Marauder and put it back into long barrel pistol configuration.

I also think someone has put out poison near my house again.  I'm seeing rats only once every 2-3 days.  My dog found a dead rat next to the fence.  It looked like it was trying to dig a hole just before it died.  No visible wounds.  There is also a lingering smell of dead rat hanging around (which didn't happen from me shooting one),

Anyway body count 338.

Jl808

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #442 on: February 11, 2016, 10:38:51 AM »
Man.... some guys get all the fun. :shaka:
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robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #443 on: February 11, 2016, 11:39:01 AM »
Man.... some guys get all the fun. :shaka:
Some those guys are pretty big if you wanna bring a .223 over lol.

Hanabata

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #444 on: February 11, 2016, 01:02:37 PM »
Hah.. cool thread. I use my airgun for rats too.. But (thankfully) I don't encounter many rats at my place.

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #445 on: February 16, 2016, 08:42:35 PM »
Plastic netting around the house acted kinda like a gill net on a pretty big rat today.

It had been trying to get free for hours judging by its bloody back feet. 
Ironically, when I shot it, it died instantly, the body relaxed, and it slid right out of the mesh by gravity only. 

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #446 on: February 23, 2016, 11:57:04 PM »
 Not much has happened over the last week. At this point I am pretty sure someone is using poison again.   Seems like every 23 days I can smell a dead rat somewhere near the side of the house that's closest to the rat infested neighbor.
I'm also hardly seeing any rats now even though every night. I got one last night and one tonight but that is all for the whole last week.

+2 / 340

Oh yea, saw this on Amazon.  It appears some company took the idea for night vision that I've been using turned it into something pretty nice.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00I6PAOLQ/?tag=2ahawaii-20

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #447 on: February 26, 2016, 06:37:32 PM »
 +1 last night. He was actually in transit mode on opposite bank. Saw him kinda far down moving quickly along the waterline and weeds. Lost sight of him a couple times but sort of across from me was about 2' of weed free bank. I got him as he ran across that part.


Also,
Someone has put some sticky traps out by the bus stop.
 Effective but inhumane.  I wouldn't use them except as a last resort (that and poison).

« Last Edit: February 26, 2016, 06:50:07 PM by robble1 »

London808

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #448 on: March 01, 2016, 02:03:40 PM »
+1 last night. He was actually in transit mode on opposite bank. Saw him kinda far down moving quickly along the waterline and weeds. Lost sight of him a couple times but sort of across from me was about 2' of weed free bank. I got him as he ran across that part.


Also,
Someone has put some sticky traps out by the bus stop.
 Effective but inhumane.  I wouldn't use them except as a last resort (that and poison).

And shooting them and not killing them is humane ?
Use the right tool for the job, sounds like the pistol is not it.
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robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #449 on: March 01, 2016, 02:41:06 PM »
And shooting them and not killing them is humane ?
Use the right tool for the job, sounds like the pistol is not it.

I quite agree. I'm going to de-stock my marauder and use a shorter barrel extension.  It'll be more portable without being so noticeable.

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #450 on: March 09, 2016, 08:18:50 AM »
Not seeing many rats by my house now nor even tons by the bus stop (still some though).

There's probably one or two I forgot to log but did get one last night by my house.

+1.   342

k2man

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #451 on: March 12, 2016, 12:20:53 PM »
EXCELLENT ADVENTURE STORY!!!

I finally got thru the whole 23 pages of post.  Awesome shooting Robble!   :shaka:  Wish I were there to be your wingman.  I shoot iguanas here in Key Largo Florida.  They are invasive exotics that are damaging a lot of native plants (vegan critters).  But they are quite tasty, so we grill them.  Wouldn't do that with your rats though.  I shoot a .25 cal Marauder - love the accuracy - killed two out at 41 yards two days ago.  Keep up the good work with vermin control!

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #452 on: March 12, 2016, 05:07:44 PM »
If rats were tasty I don't think we'd have a rat population problem lol.

I've gone back and read through the whole thread myself not too long ago.  Took quite a while to read the whole thing It's amazing how it has turned out and how many I've gotten. 

+1 last night 343

+1 catching kid throwing bag of trash in stream.
I was out last night on my patio hunting.  Since I use night vision my porch light was off and it was pretty dark on my porch. All of a sudden I heard a very loud splash and was like "the hell is that?" I look upstream where I heard the splash towards my next-door neighbor on that side.  These people moved in just a couple weeks ago. There was a boy probably about 14-15 years old wearing only shorts and slippers standing on the porch looking into the stream. I turned on my white flashlight to see made to splash and there was a large white kitchen trash bag right there that the kid obviously threw in. The startled kid looked towards me ( it appears he did not know I was standing outside).
 I looked right at him and in a very loud voice just said, "REALLY???!" He look stunned.  "I know I did not just see you throw that bag of trash in there" ( I actually didn't see but it made him think I did). Then I turned and went into the house.  He must have gotten scared and fished it out while I was in the house getting a string with some fishhooks to fish it out myself because when I came back out a few minutes later his porch light was off and the bag was gone (it didn't float away).    Maybe he thought I was going to call the cops on him .

ren

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #453 on: March 12, 2016, 05:18:57 PM »
If rats were tasty I don't think we'd have a rat population problem lol.

I've gone back and read through the whole thread myself not too long ago.  Took quite a while to read the whole thing It's amazing how it has turned out and how many I've gotten. 

+1 last night 343

+1 catching kid throwing bag of trash in stream.
I was out last night on my patio hunting.  Since I use night vision my porch light was off and it was pretty dark on my porch. All of a sudden I heard a very loud splash and was like "the hell is that?" I look upstream where I heard the splash towards my next-door neighbor on that side.  These people moved in just a couple weeks ago. There was a boy probably about 14-15 years old wearing only shorts and slippers standing on the porch looking into the stream. I turned on my white flashlight to see made to splash and there was a large white kitchen trash bag right there that the kid obviously threw in. The startled kid looked towards me ( it appears he did not know I was standing outside).
 I looked right at him and in a very loud voice just said, "REALLY???!" He look stunned.  "I know I did not just see you throw that bag of trash in there" ( I actually didn't see but it made him think I did). Then I turned and went into the house.  He must have gotten scared and fished it out while I was in the house getting a string with some fishhooks to fish it out myself because when I came back out a few minutes later his porch light was off and the bag was gone (it didn't float away).    Maybe he thought I was going to call the cops on him .

that's why we have stupid "common sense" laws because people are too lazy to do the right thing. There's likely a few laws that the kid broke....but that didn't stop him....see where I'm going ---->>>>
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robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #454 on: March 23, 2016, 03:05:14 PM »
+2 night before last by my house. Also saw a couple that I didn't have time to draw a bead on before they deep into the brush,

Unfortunately last night when I went to get my pellet gun the hook I hang it on from the hollow stock had pulled through the plywood it was screwed into and dropped it straight down about 3 feet straight down onto the ldc/shroud/barrel bending them slightly.  I tried straightening by hand but was unable to do so.  I didn't even try to shoot it with the ldc on because I know the pellet would have clipped it.  took the ldc and shroud off and could see the barrel was also bent a tiny bit as well.  tried a few shots with the naked barrel and the poi had shifted about 3/4" at 10 yards.  The grouping wasn't very good either. (plus super loud with neither shroud nor ldc).

I've already ordered an upgraded hammer forged barrel that is guaranteed to be accurate to 1moa at 40yards (using their recommended pellets and tuned to 700fps) and a new ldc.  I went to order a new shroud from Crossman but they are on the east coast and closed at 4:30 so will have to do that tomorrow.  Unfortunately, they do not have an online ordering system set up. 
I don't think the breech was damaged where the barrel attaches but I might order a new one anyway depending on it's price. I've found Crossman is very reasonable on replacement parts costs so it'll be good insurance.  Pricing example - Crossman stock barrel is $25 vs $150 for the aftermarket hammer forged barrel  (ok ok, so there may be a slight difference in quality). Luckily the night vision system wasn't damaged at all.

I'll also be getting a stronger hook system.

It may be a while before I get all the replacement parts in so I hope the population doesn't explode in the meantime - but if it does I guess that just means more targets.  I've made some wire mesh covers for my raised bed garden to try to keep them out of the lettuce etc.
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 I saw about 9 of them at once last night by the bus stop while walking the dog so they are strong at their base camp again.

Total count 345.

ren

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #455 on: March 23, 2016, 03:25:13 PM »
need help with eratification?
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robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #456 on: March 23, 2016, 04:53:21 PM »
need help with eratification?

Not while my woman is home (which is every night).  She doesn't even like it that I kill them since she is semi-Buddhist..  She surely wouldn't like a pellet beer party.   Now next time she goes to the mainland to visit her daughter on the other hand......

Or you can always check out the area by the bus stop.  It's usually a rat rich area starting right about sundown until very late night.

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #457 on: March 24, 2016, 11:48:50 PM »
took this video tonight while walking my dog.

robble1

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #458 on: March 31, 2016, 11:43:30 PM »
+2 tonight using my .177 with scope and flashlight.

You gotta be quick on the trigger when using a white light.  They don't just hang around like they do when you are using night vision. But man, is the .177 QUIET - the .22 is quiet but not like this. Too bad it is single shot.  650 fps and it really is the proverbial mouse fart. Still waiting on new barrel and shroud for the .22

347 total.

edit: 1:56am  Just got back from a short trip over by the bus stop.  +4

here is one that was easy to photo:


351 total.

4/2/16 +2. 353
« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 11:30:09 PM by robble1 »

London808

Re: Can I kill rats with an air pellet gun in the stream by my house?
« Reply #459 on: April 03, 2016, 01:12:16 PM »
Can we come play to lol,
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016