if Michael Brown was white... (Read 20629 times)

drck1000

new guy

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2014, 09:10:22 AM »
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punaperson

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2014, 09:55:11 AM »
Holder better hurry his ass up to Utah to start the investigation.
Holder might not be able to use the same opening line he used in Ferguson: "I am the Attorney General of the United States, but I am also a black man." (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/20/holder-ferguson-investigation/14356869/ has autoplay video).

Or maybe he would. If he were honest. That ain't gonna happen.

mauidog

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2014, 11:40:01 AM »
Holder might not be able to use the same opening line he used in Ferguson: "I am the Attorney General of the United States, but I am also a black man." (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/20/holder-ferguson-investigation/14356869/ has autoplay video).

Or maybe he would. If he were honest. That ain't gonna happen.

Waiting to hear Holder say, "I may be a Black man, but I'm the Attorney General of the United States first."

Wake me up so I can stop dreaming... :sleeping:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

punaperson

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2014, 06:03:01 PM »
Waiting to hear Holder say, "I may be a Black man, but I'm the Attorney General of the United States first."

Wake me up so I can stop dreaming... :sleeping:
If you're having a dream that far removed from reality, you don't want to be woken up to the ugly reality. Of course if you know you're dreaming, so called "conscious dreaming", then you already know... oh, never mind.  :geekdanc:

Heavies

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2014, 07:22:00 PM »
As more evidence is coming to light, it looks as if the big guy beat the crap out of the cop, ran, then turned back and charged.  I am wondering how any of our LE members feel about the precedence this case is beginning to set?  Where a dude can smash your face in yet you cannot shoot, in self-defense, just because the guy is a minority, and is 'unarmed'. 

robtmc

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2014, 08:19:48 PM »
Waiting to hear Holder say, "I may be a Black man, but I'm the Attorney General of the United States first."

Wake me up so I can stop dreaming... :sleeping:
Nevah happen GI.

He and his boss do not even try to pretend to be working for the people of the USA.  For them it is all about splinter/fringe groups, or whatever the hell they call various minorities, homosexuals, illegal aliens, etc. They seem to consume all the attention of the traitors that fraud has put in power.  Only those that voted for them matter.  I believ Obutthole eve was quoted as saying "I don't care about the suburbs".

One can only imagine what he thinks of the rural areas..............

Common citizens be damned, most of us did not vote for the bastard and they know that.
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Kingkeoni

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2014, 08:31:55 PM »
In Obama's america, the media has turned a blind eye on black on white crime.

It's sad.

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2013/08/16/censored-news-black-woman-kills-12-y-o-white-boy-with-blow-torch/
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Kingkeoni

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2014, 08:33:16 PM »
As more evidence is coming to light, it looks as if the big guy beat the crap out of the cop, ran, then turned back and charged.  I am wondering how any of our LE members feel about the precedence this case is beginning to set?  Where a dude can smash your face in yet you cannot shoot, in self-defense, just because the guy is a minority, and is 'unarmed'.

If...

If this guy beat up a police officer and then went back to finish the job, he deserves to be dead. Regardless of his skin color.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Heavies

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2014, 09:52:12 PM »
If...

This is a perfect example showing the dangers of what this liberal utopia society is comming to.  Even LE are not allowed self defense.

punaperson

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2014, 06:41:15 AM »

"Mind if I play through?"

new guy

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2014, 01:03:52 PM »
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Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

Jl808

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2014, 01:16:05 PM »
Talking Points got it right...

Not just about education but also... the willingness to work hard!!!!

Education is nothing if one does nothing with it.   I know a few professional students who should really get out of the school environment and move on to the real world.
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Gordyf

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2014, 06:13:54 PM »
Would there be any protests...civil unrest?
What if Christopher Deedy was a local cop.
Would there be three trials, or even one?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Gordy

eyeeatingfish

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2014, 09:25:07 AM »
What if Christopher Deedy was a local cop.
Would there be three trials, or even one?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Alloha

If he was drunk I would still think so.

Kingkeoni

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2014, 03:48:43 AM »
If he was drunk I would still think so.

They wouldn't have even checked.

Did they check BAC of the local cop in Waikiki that killed the drunk driver?
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

edster48

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2014, 05:34:37 AM »
What if Christopher Deedy was a local cop.
Would there be three trials, or even one?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Alloha

I think they would have found that "he had no other choice to protect innocent lives"  and that everyone from the desk sergeant up to the PA would find his actions "commendable".

Any ensuing investigation would take so long the event would barely be remembered by all but those closest to the event. It would just be assumed that the officer "did the right thing".
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aieahound

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2014, 08:49:43 AM »
Most local cops I know would have just beat the shit out of Elderts.

And no, they would not be charged with anything.

powder monkey

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2014, 02:38:35 PM »


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eyeeatingfish

Re: if Michael Brown was white...
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2014, 05:17:06 AM »
They wouldn't have even checked.

Did they check BAC of the local cop in Waikiki that killed the drunk driver?

There is a chance they did. But generally there has to be reason to check as well. Per witnesses Deedy appeared intoxicated. If an HPD guy shot someone and then appeared intoxicated then you can bet they would check his alcohol level.