The Assault Weapon Myth (Read 3271 times)

mauidog

The Assault Weapon Myth
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:08:26 PM »
New York Times Op Ed admits the term "Assault Weapon" was devised for political and anti-gun agendas. 

Very interesting collection of facts and Liberal's intentions in a concise article.

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It was much the same in the early 1990s when Democrats created and then banned a category of guns they called “assault weapons.”
America was then suffering from a spike in gun crime and it seemed like a problem threatening everyone. Gun murders each year had been
climbing: 11,000, then 13,000, then 17,000.

Democrats decided to push for a ban of what seemed like the most dangerous guns in America: assault weapons, which were presented
by the media as the gun of choice for drug dealers and criminals, and which many in law enforcement wanted to get off the streets.

This politically defined category of guns — a selection of rifles, shotguns and handguns with “military-style” features — only figured in
about 2 percent of gun crimes nationwide before the ban.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html?_r=0
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

punaperson

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2014, 06:39:35 AM »
New York Times Op Ed admits the term "Assault Weapon" was devised for political and anti-gun agendas. 

Very interesting collection of facts and Liberal's intentions in a concise article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html?_r=0
And here we are 20 YEARS later in Hawaii and "assault pistols" are still banned. Go figure. Who cares about actual facts regarding gun crime? Almost none of the politicians and bureaucrats in our wonderfully "progressive" state.

From the article opening:

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OVER the past two decades, the majority of Americans in a country deeply divided over gun control have coalesced behind a single proposition: The sale of assault weapons should be banned.

That idea was one of the pillars of the Obama administration’s plan to curb gun violence, and it remains popular with the public. In a poll last December, 59 percent of likely voters said they favor a ban.

If you look at that referenced poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/questions/pt_survey_questions/december_2013/questions_gun_control_i_dec_29_30_2013) and read the actual question you'll see: "Should be there be a ban on the purchase of semi-automatic AND assault-type weapons?" [My emphasis] Does that mean "single shot bolt action" "assault weapons" are okay? Does that mean they favor banning ALL semi-automatic weapons? They need to ask a prior question to their polling subjects: "Do you know f***ing anything at all about firearms?" I mean, "Do you know the difference between "semi-automatic" and "automatic" weapons? Please tell us how you define "assault-type weapon"." The fact that, I believe, the vast majority giving an answer supporting a ban on "semi-automatic AND assault-type weapons" are virtually totally ignorant about firearms in general and the facts regarding what weapons are used by whom in the vast majority of crimes, well, that'd be informative. But let's not muddy the waters with facts about the majority supporting such an idea being ignoramuses. Even the totally uniformed, and the misinformed, ought to be who we look to to create public policy and the laws implementing those policies. See: Hawaii.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2014, 07:46:19 AM by punaperson »

macsak

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 07:26:21 AM »
New York Times Op Ed admits the term "Assault Weapon" was devised for political and anti-gun agendas. 

Very interesting collection of facts and Liberal's intentions in a concise article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html?_r=0

interesting article given the liberal bias of the NYT

edster48

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014, 08:01:15 AM »
interesting article given the liberal bias of the NYT

Agreed, the fact they are willing to "admit" their ignorance and mistaken vilification of semi auto rifles would seem to be a step in the right direction.

Unfortunately I don't trust them. My personal feeling is they are just preparing to tack in a different direction.

They'll never just give up. Remember, there ain't no end to doing "good" in their minds.

We need to remain vigilant.
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

punaperson

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 08:30:04 AM »
Agreed, the fact they are willing to "admit" their ignorance and mistaken vilification of semi auto rifles would seem to be a step in the right direction.

Unfortunately I don't trust them. My personal feeling is they are just preparing to tack in a different direction.

They'll never just give up. Remember, there ain't no end to doing "good" in their minds.

We need to remain vigilant.
Yeah, they're going after ALL long guns now. Just came out a few days ago.

Assault Weapons Revisited. Policy Options for Regulating Rifles, Shotguns,and Other Firearms 20 Years After the Passage of the Assault Weapons Ban

http://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/AssaultWeapons-report.pdf

Written by (former?) Bloomberg employees.

macsak

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2014, 08:39:43 AM »
Yeah, they're going after ALL long guns now. Just came out a few days ago.

Assault Weapons Revisited. Policy Options for Regulating Rifles, Shotguns,and Other Firearms 20 Years After the Passage of the Assault Weapons Ban

http://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/AssaultWeapons-report.pdf

Written by (former?) Bloomberg employees.

ah
now the truth comes out

punaperson

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2014, 08:49:45 AM »
ah
now the truth comes out
Or, to paraphrase some old guys, "Hooray for the new myth. Same as the old myth. I hope we don't get fooled again."

edster48

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2014, 08:50:31 AM »
Thanks for posting that in its entirety. I've only seen excerpts from it on other sites.

These people will never figure out that they're blaming spoons for making people fat.

Personal responsibility has no place in their idiom.
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

macsak

Re: The Assault Weapon Myth
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 08:59:25 AM »
Personal responsibility has no place in their idiom.

as shown by captain nurse the other day in the youtube cideo